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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 98

    I Was Looking Forward To Playing Pictomancer

    After watching this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEJFcE1j_Sg, my head is spinning. There is such a disconnect going on here.

    The trailer portrays Pictomancer as a fun, whimsical job. I was looking forward it and was expecting something flashy and inline with the other jobs in terms of complexity and damage.

    Yet, from the Live Letter, it appears I'll need the mental skill sufficient to defeat Grandmaster Ahmad Al-Khatib without looking at a chessboard in order to play the job.
    If the job truly is as complicated described, Pictomancer will end up being the least played job in FFXIV.

    In an expansion where Square Enix seems committed to simplifying jobs, to the point of adding the option for players to assign combos to a single button, why introduce such a complicated job? It makes no sense.

    Who signed off on this?

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    ASkellington's Avatar
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    Xynnel Valeroyant
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    In an expansion where Square Enix seems committed to simplifying jobs, to the point of adding the option for players to assign combos to a single button, why introduce such a complicated job? It makes no sense.
    Counter argument: people have been asking for more job complexity. They may now have a job to their preferences.
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Ogru Magnataraxia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    There's always Smn
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    LordMcMutton's Avatar
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    Fightmaster Briggs
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    Warrior Lv 90
    To be fair, all Jobs seem incredibly complicated when you get dropped into the deep end right at the beginning- it may not be as complicated as it seems once you get some practice in
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordMcMutton View Post
    To be fair, all Jobs seem incredibly complicated when you get dropped into the deep end right at the beginning- it may not be as complicated as it seems once you get some practice in
    Exactly! BLM for example looks deceptively complicated, which part of the culprit is how bad the tooltip writing is, but in the end the actual rotation is one of the easiest to memorize. The hard part is something entirely different.

    Also we get to see things without the rotational context. Maybe it's adding in AoE alongside the single target, or situational actions that are used just as a save (e.g Hurajin).
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    Local_Custard's Avatar
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    Rhel'a Tayuun
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    Culinarian Lv 83
    I just watched the pictomancer portion of the job actions and I am getting the sense I will enjoy it a lot once I get to know it. I am now watching through the liveletter gameplay and the feeling hasn't changed
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    I love the men in this game

    I finally return to the game! Current goal: getting all my jobs to 90

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    Selene Halflight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Exactly! BLM for example looks deceptively complicated, which part of the culprit is how bad the tooltip writing is, but in the end the actual rotation is one of the easiest to memorize. The hard part is something entirely different.

    Also we get to see things without the rotational context. Maybe it's adding in AoE alongside the single target, or situational actions that are used just as a save (e.g Hurajin).
    Concur.
    Current BLM is basically Two Rotations(Single/Aoe) that are exactly the same movements, except for the fact that there is less (repeated)actions in one, than the other.

    Sadly it seems the Mastery High might come crashing down in Dawntrail for BLM, which is what some of us in the forum worry about.
    (Since, IF you can stack ice in the new gauge, we may have MP issues to deal with. On Steroids, Worse than Thin Air Stacks.)

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    As for PICtomancer, it's basically just give it a Honest and Justly Efforted Chance, it may surprise you.

    And Not all Jobs need to be dedicated to the Majority.

    BLM for example is a job that isn't hard to get into, specially at the start where it feels slow.

    We need our Walk in the parks, as well as a unstable hiking trail.
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    Callisto E'elyaa
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    I love the creativity of the job. you can paint a whole 4 body parts (while playing Dr Frankenstein and sending more or less completed corpses at people) , one hammer and a landscape. such freedom of expression !

    I can't wait for the Values being as bad as AdderSting and having using the sketch being DPS loss aside the 3 you get before the fight, but this time not even with the redeeming value of healing/shielding
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    A'ver Snow
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I truly don't think you can know how complex or simple something is to you until you've got it in your own hands. It didn't look very complicated to me but i simply won't know until i try it myself.
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    Cid Heiral
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    I doubt it's actually as complicated as it seems, but even if that is the case the obvious solution there is if you don't like it, don't play it.

    Picto's aesthetics don't appeal to me at all, but if it turns out to actually be a complicated job I think that is a wonderful addition to a game that is increasingly being dumbed down across the board. It is important that the game have a wide variety of jobs at different complexities to cater to different player preferences. It is completely irrelevant if a job is the "least played" or not.
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