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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    Throwing a Squall is Dead Theory, eh?
    I mean... that IS what happened in the OG timeline before the crystal tower shenanigans
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  2. #112
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    Made 4 different transformations for fun for the "transformation".
    1. A more humanoid seraph comes and embraces us from behind.
    2. A seraphic aura.
    3. The fairy sitting on our shoulder with magical strings tied around our arms.
    4. Fairy turns into a book with wings that follows you.

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    Last edited by Katish; 05-20-2024 at 06:58 AM.

  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katish View Post
    1. A more humanoid seraph comes and embraces us from behind.
    2. A seraphic aura.


    I honestly like the idea of Seraph embracing us that leads into an aura that is Seraph themed, maybe baby blue glow subtle feathers (well when I think of seraph I do think of angels/feathers/soft blue). I think the idea of being empowered by Seraph is far nicer than transforming into something else that makes no sense. And it doesn't break our character's glam. I think for reaper there's the benefit of the doubt of 'our avatar ate that voidsent'....but this feels abit weird.

    (your image embed is broken or improper I think I can't see it, so I imagined it)
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  4. #114
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    I really do like the idea of summoning extra faires to help. If eos and selene actually had unique abilities again, and you could choose between them, but then had an ability that brought both out for a short duration and another that would bring the other out for a decent cd.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rueby View Post
    I honestly like the idea of Seraph embracing us that leads into an aura that is Seraph themed, maybe baby blue glow subtle feathers (well when I think of seraph I do think of angels/feathers/soft blue). I think the idea of being empowered by Seraph is far nicer than transforming into something else that makes no sense. And it doesn't break our character's glam. I think for reaper there's the benefit of the doubt of 'our avatar ate that voidsent'....but this feels abit weird.

    (your image embed is broken or improper I think I can't see it, so I imagined it)
    Unfortunately my img embeds take a bit to register, not sure imgbb is great xD for that regard. Should be fine now. Glad you liked the idea though :3.
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    Last edited by Katish; 05-20-2024 at 07:05 AM.

  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by fulminating View Post
    Il Mheg is the unrelated but similarly named pixies, not fairies. Aloalo island has statice, which is about as close as we've seen but still a bit distinct.
    Thank you for the information. I have a pretty basic understanding of FFXIV lore, which is why I used the word aesthetics. I used Il Mheg as a reference because it's loaded with a lot of the fairy/pixie/whatever -- "fae" -- type aesthetic I was thinking of, and not so much because of any lore attached to it; the same goes for the sin eater reference: it was about the aesthetics.

    I apologize if I confused or agitated any lore enthusiasts.
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  7. #117
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    Ed Stardust
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    Siren
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I agree with the transformation being too invasive in a character since you force the player to wear a robe, healers have too many robes in game for them to force you to wear one now. Idk what were they thinking, we have a big community who’s trying to loose the healer robe aesthetic for a long time and are aggressively asking for more pants xD but they keep ignoring that to a point where you are forced now to wear one.

    Lore related, seraph has always been part of the scholar kit being the LB (ultimate spell) for them as nymian marines, the lore even states that seraph is a winged fairie on the description of the LB3 in the encyclopedia. That said, it is normal that we get that summon seraph button since we have gotten stronger over time. We still need that seraph lore to confirm if it’s just a trance form for lily, a complete different entity created from Aether like lily, or a real summon like in the summoner´s case.
    Now about that seraphim transformation… the only thing that comes in mind is that first relic we got for the class, the Last Resort. Encyclopedia mentions:

    “Legend tells us a grimoire such as this was passed down through the mages of Nym. Indeed, Golbas Rombas, the hero who saved his people from the floods of the Sixth Umbral Calamity, was known to rely upon it as his secret weapon.”
    Renowned Hannish alchemist, Jalzahn Daemir

    If you see the aesthetic it’s looks very similar from what we got on the trailer, being that white and gold with feathered wings just like the book. It could be that secret weapon mentioned there. That first relic has a lot of job lore which we are missing after lvl 60 and they are probably evolving you to that point. In the end, SCH identity is a mess not because of its kit but because of the lack of lore we have on the class.

    Last thing, if seraphism is really tied to that last resort relic weapon, Last Resort is a non-elemental ability used by DKs on other games to buff themselves at the cost of something or, from ffxiii that limit break from Hope. Using that we can speculate that it’s not a white magic ability. But again, without lore we may never know and we can only speculate until someone gets brave enough and asks about it on an interview or they actually release job lore like before…
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  8. #118
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Without any concrete documentation to support, the existense of Seraphism, just like Seraph being a summonable creature, is questionable. Like what i have said in the previous page, being able to summon Seraph as an LB3 makes sense and it is backed up by lore. Being able to summon Seraph on the other hand, there wasn't any documented lore to support as to how it is possible. For all we know, it is just referring to the summoning done in LB3. So lore-wise and gameplay-wise, Seraph is forced. And they doubled down with Seraphism.
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  9. #119
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    obligatory bump
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    Nadia Frostwind
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Katish View Post
    Made 4 different transformations for fun for the "transformation".
    1. A more humanoid seraph comes and embraces us from behind.
    2. A seraphic aura.
    3. The fairy sitting on our shoulder with magical strings tied around our arms.
    4. Fairy turns into a book with wings that follows you.

    I loved the embracing Seraph
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    "Every soul you touch will remember your kindness" - TIA, G'raha

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