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    Player
    fulminating's Avatar
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    Wind-up Everyone
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    Zodiark
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    Arcanist Lv 52
    In cutscene in job quest level 30 there's an echo vision of presumably lily, the third fairy - after being introduced to the other two it has a textbox that's labelled ??? and says "playername".

    Then in the job quest "the beast within", at level 50:

    Suritocarito:
    Long has my mind been clouded with hatred. But by the resplendent light of Lily, at long last, I am free...

    That the traditions of my people have not been lost to the ages is of great comfort to me.
    I do not know how that soul crystal came into your possession, but I am glad that it did. For the sickness robbed me not only of my body, but of Lily as well.
    The Soul of the Scholar no longer resonates with my aether. I cannot summon her─only you can. Only you are fit to wield the magicks now.
    Here─a gown as befits a scholar of your standing. I bequeath it to you, along with the knowledge of Sacred Soil, my most versatile art.
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    If your basis and justification of Seraphism's transformation is an LB3 nomenclature, you are deeply mistaken. There was never any mention of Seraph being another aspect of Lily.

    If anything, it was forced. Them discontinuing the job lore opened up the possibilities of just injecting what they see fit to the job without any form of explanation whatsoever. Ugh.. i really hated when they stopped the lore building of the jobs because this garbage happens.

    Edit.. Before you mentioned that Lily, Eos, and Selene, when combined, is Seraph?
    Quote Originally Posted by Emmacleas View Post
    seraph is lily, eos and selene combined
    I asked if you could provide me some lore then why the sudden change of heart when you made this statement?
    Quote Originally Posted by Emmacleas View Post
    I know that Eos and selene are aspects of Lily....
    Please. I am waiting for your explanation how on earth does Angel Feathers makes perfect sense with the SCH transforming to an angel other than the LB3 being called as such. I would understand summoning Seraph as an LB3 because it is a limit break. The entire summoning Seraph as part of the job's action is already lore-breaking. Does it mean that Seraph has been enslaved and bound to a crystal? But the soul crystal we have, formerly owned by Surito Carito, is already bound to Lily. You see how Seraph's existence outside of Limit Break territory doesn't make sense and breaks lore? And then what... they doubled down by transforming the SCH to an angel???

    Quote Originally Posted by Emmacleas View Post
    We have never seen lily, only eos and selene. It is common sense that seraph is selene and eos combined.
    How did I miss this? I cannot stress how wrong this deduction is. (Mis)Using common sense as an argument is moot. You should really stop making these assumptions without any solid proof to back it up.
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    Last edited by rawker; 05-20-2024 at 03:34 AM.

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    Olivia Lugria
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    Sargatanas
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    Yall keep mentioning this selene? I have some vague memory of a yellowish faire that offered niche but powerful utility. That can't be right though. There's only Eos. Always has been.
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    Viorel Amala
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    whm and sch wings should have been swapped lmao
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    Mara Sagegrove
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    SCH was always my healer main and I didn't want to abandon it for the SGE bandwagon, but I think Seraphism is gonna make me do just that if it doesn't end up being an optional vfx.
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    Kage Kuchikira
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    Marilith
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    Marauder Lv 62
    Eos and Selene done turned SCH into a schizophrenic...

    "I am not a master of fairies. I am THE MASTER FAIRY!!!"
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    Olivia Lugria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calysto View Post
    The only feather SCH ever needed was a pen, most likely from a seagull ; seraph and whatever is linked to it is a fanfic ; no lore exists of it.
    This is all just a what if. The wol died in the garlean war due to being poisoned. Everything post stormblood is just a fevor dream before we draw our last breath.
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    So...do we have a picture of what the transformation looks like exactly and what it entails? I tried looking it up and just saw a grainy shot from behind a character.
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    Ogru Magnataraxia
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    Lich
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    So...do we have a picture of what the transformation looks like exactly and what it entails? I tried looking it up and just saw a grainy shot from behind a character.
    We've only seen it from the back so far - the transformation animation itself is beautiful but at the end of it you're just hyur Meoni. Looks like it removes all racial traits. I really wish they hadn't left healers til the very very end we just needed a tiny peep more.
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    Last edited by OgruMogru; 05-20-2024 at 05:27 AM.

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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Throwing a Squall is Dead Theory, eh?
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