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Thread: Viper!

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    Averax's Avatar
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    Ven Black
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    ^ I also didn't seem to notice any OGCDs that were being woven in. Probably because its GCD is faster. Nor did i notice any obvious positional abilities. Which is great, imo.

    I had very small expectations for this job and didn't expect to take an interest in it, but after seeing it in action i gotta say i'm excited for it.
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    Cynric Caliburn
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    ^ I also didn't seem to notice any OGCDs that were being woven in. Probably because its GCD is faster. Nor did i notice any obvious positional abilities. Which is great, imo.

    I had very small expectations for this job and didn't expect to take an interest in it, but after seeing it in action i gotta say i'm excited for it.
    There were tons of OGCD's, they were just all coming from the continuation ogcd buttons that they were using. It seemed a lot like gunbreaker in that respect.
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    Eugene Tracewood
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    Hey, we get sword chucks and some ranged abilities.

    Honest question to the folks who keep saying "no job identity", what do you mean exactly? Do you see it as just a boring speedy dual sword job?
    I get the impression there are still some people still upset that it's not Corsair or some pirate themed job so they're semi-projecting the Corsair theme on Viper.

    Looks like they have some moves with some snake skin animations on them, the icon are a pair of snake fangs. EU fanfest slide describes them as hunters, still unsure what we hunt. Are we bounty hunters, monster hunters?
    Think the jobs quest should give us more information of the kind of identity since it's technically a "new" job and not something already established. Before someone brings up DRG being the "reptile" job, let me stop you right there. We have DRK, then we have RPR. People panicked RPR would take the edgy darkness motif away from DRK, now it became it's own thing post Endwalker release.
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    Rad Calidum
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    Ultros
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    Saw a really thorough video going over how viper works. It’s a build-your-own combo job sorta like monk. I’m actually pumped. I love the aesthetics, the mechanics, the burst is lackluster af but oh well.
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    Malia Tri'el
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    VPR looks like a ton of fun! VPR seems like a very tactile job, and it's gonna be hard to judge based on seeing someone else play it. How you set up your hotbar might make or break the job. Gonna be playing a lot of GNB to 'prep' for it.
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    Arkadya Dravena
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    Quote Originally Posted by SargeTheSeagull View Post
    Saw a really thorough video going over how viper works. It’s a build-your-own combo job sorta like monk. I’m actually pumped. I love the aesthetics, the mechanics, the burst is lackluster af but oh well.
    Can I get a link please?
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Ninja Lv 100
    The job seems like a weird hodge podge of mechanics from other melee DPS jobs and not anything particularly unique unto itself, though I'd still try it by virtue of using NIN as my main DPS job.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Machinist Lv 100
    What I like is the change of pacing and recasts between the dual blades and the double blade. I'd have loved if the left and right buttons for each of their basic weaponskill combo branch (1 and 2) were even more tied to the left and right blades themselves, but it's nice either way. PCT also has a lot of different recasts and it breaks monotony.
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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    The mobility side of things looks like a potential weak spot. The gap closer seems to be essentially Thunderclap with two charges (although the charge counts look to be bugged in the video), and there's no gap extender.

    A fixed distance targetless dash would be infinitely more useful and could cover both those aspects (although dedicated gap extenders are always welcome, just to give you a fraction of a second longer on mobs during a forced disengage).
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Does VPR not have a job specific self heal / defensive ability or is it possible we haven't been shown all the skills yet?
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