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  1. #61
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    I fully expect that it'll look even worse from the front, since the wings are the part that the people who 'like it' are all talking about, and they'd be obscured from the front. In fact, with how robe-y some of the raid sets are (E4S comes to mind very heavily):

    ...From the front, will we even be able to tell that Seraphism was activated, if we're wearing a set like that?

    I'd much rather (like almost everyone, it seems) see a capstone that reinforces the theme of 'battlefield tactician, giving orders to faerie companion'. If they want to increase GCD healing again (bad idea, since it'd just mean 'Spread Adlo is stronger again'), they could do so via something like:

    Synchronization Tactics, 120s CD
    Orders your faerie to move in lockstep with yourself. Each time you cast a spell, the faerie will also cast the same spell, at 25% effectiveness, on the same target. If the cast spell is AOE in nature, the faerie will cast it at her location.
    Duration: 30s

    That way, if the faerie applies a shield because you cast Adlo on someone, that 'Fey Adlo' or whatever it'd be called, would be exempt from Deployment Tactics, keeping SCH's ability to 'delete raid mechanics' in check
    I’ve been thinking 1 of 2 things with seraphism that I think is more likely than it just being a generic “20% healing up potency” because of the spreadlo problem

    1) similar to what you say seraphism applies it’s healing up in a different way to a generic healing up. I can think of a few ways they could achieve this
    A) Seraphism applies a secondary barrier independent of galvanise that is 10/20% whatever the buff percentage is on top of the galvanise (similar to how current catalyse works)
    B) Seraphism changes adlos cast under it to a different skill that can neither be recited nor deployed. So something like Seraphism changes adlo to seraphic barrier which is 20% stronger than adlo but can’t be recited or deployed

    2) they intend to delete deployment tactics and make it so if you want a strong AOE shield you need to recite succor. Right now Zoe e prog is 480 potency. Assuming a crit multiplier of 1.6 crit succor is 512 (current deployment is 864). If they deleted deployment that would still give SCH a decent edge (the biggest SGE can offer is 528 by adding physis healing up, if we assume Seraphism is a flat 20% then stacking it, dissipation and illumination would be 811. Still much stronger than SGE but lacking its current immense power) which would also reduce how overpowered reducing recitations CD is considering the equivalent skill they are reducing for SGE is the pathetic soteria

    Either way if they just give Seraphism a flat 20% and nothing else SCH is going to be deleting mechanics in lesbian power ultimate like during DSR and SGE is gonna get a buff it doesn’t need to compensate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    has there been any footage of how that form looks from the front?
    I fully expect it to be this XD
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  3. #63
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    I understand the value of keeping feedback funneled into a single, cohesive location, but I also feel like the length of my feedback usually ends up being way too much to jam-into the replies of a preexisting Thread, without being disruptive to the flow of discussion.

    So, if anyone from the SE/CBU3/Community teams are actually reading this, the following linked Post summarises the feelings and feedback that I would like to convey to the designers about the planned "Seraphism" Action:

    "Seraphism" is not the correct fantasy for Scholar fans

    Otherwise, I would just generally like to offer my support for most of the feedback and opinions already-contained in this current Thread — especially, being much less concerned with what Seraphism "does", mechanically, than with how garish, tacky, incongruous and off-putting its "White Mage MogStation Cosplay" forced-transformation aesthetic comes-across.
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    I'm going to throw my comment in this thread:

    Making Seraphism optional is not acceptable to me. It needs to be removed altogether. The design decision is that terrible.
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    Front profile of the new Seraphism.

    Whats the point of updating graphics if they're just going to cover our face with this awful tablecloth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rozeee View Post
    Front profile of the new Seraphism.

    Whats the point of updating graphics if they're just going to cover our face with this awful tablecloth.

    We should have gotten this instead. Tonberryism.


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    Fried popoto enthusiast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rozeee View Post
    Front profile of the new Seraphism.

    Whats the point of updating graphics if they're just going to cover our face with this awful tablecloth.
    I wish I could know how many people install plugins for the first time just to disable this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rozeee View Post
    Front profile of the new Seraphism.

    Whats the point of updating graphics if they're just going to cover our face with this awful tablecloth.
    Why is that WHM holding a book?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rozeee View Post
    Front profile of the new Seraphism.

    Whats the point of updating graphics if they're just going to cover our face with this awful tablecloth.
    Ugh. So digusting to look at.
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    I think I am just going to link this here https://gamerescape.com/2024/06/06/f...0the%20game%3F
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