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  1. #51
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    Icefall's Avatar
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    Neriya Fior
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    Sargatanas
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    A capstone skill of shoving all 3 fairy iterations into canons to strategically set off at allies/foes would be appalling, but at least more thematically consistent with the class than whatever left turn is going on with Seraphism's forced outfit change.

    I spend a lot of time finding looks that I like that aren't robes robes robes for my scholar. I like seeing my character proudly wearing Nymian green clothing. The Seraphism change is none of that.

    Another issue with the model swap, which I've only seen mentioned in a couple places, is that some people purposely glamour their character in ways to help them with precise visual positioning, which throwing a robe over makes more difficult.

    Continuing on that thought of positioning, having your character change visuals in a crowd makes them harder to see and to know where you are. I already felt bothered by how easy it was to lose sight of my Scholar when using Art of War in a large group of people or enemies since the character ducks down to hit the ground. Having my green outfit wearing Viera disappear and become some generic robed white figure amongst a bunch of other classes that already wear white and/or robes is not great for visual identity. Visual identity is the whole reason we aren't allowed to even glamour outfits across jobs/roles, despite how often NPCs are allowed to, so why is Scholar being given a White Mage/Astrologian cosplay?

    I guess it doesn't matter that my Viera won't look right in 7.0 since I'll be looking at this generic Hyur model in a costume so often when playing my main. That graphics update sure is exciting -_-
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  2. #52
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    OgruMogru's Avatar
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    Ogru Magnataraxia
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    Lich
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Spends years redoing the games graphics and making character appearance better only to immediately make it so that you cannot enjoy said new character appearance.
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  3. #53
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    Faorin Shadowclaw
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    Balmung
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Doing my civic duty and voicing my distaste for Seraphism. I don't like my character's outfit being changed, especially to a look that doesn't even match their job. If I want to wear holy robes I would be playing WHM.
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  4. #54
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    Severian Lyonesse
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    I am also going to throw my disappointment hat into public commentary.

    I don't even play SCH, but after the benchmark hinted at maybe getting an Alexander ability, I was hyped for SCH finally developing some sort of job cohesion AND getting some cool new summons. I believe Alexander, Warring Triad, and Eden would all very reasonably fit within Scholar's aesthetic; even Athena/Ultima or Omega could possibly stretch as well. It has so much potential as a strategic/scientific counterpart to SMN.

    Seraphism is like the pure antithesis of what I was hoping for. It doubles down on by far one of the more baffling and auxiliary introductions to Scholar's kit (Seraph), is not flavorfully on point with the job fantasy at all, and is ugly as sin. By far the biggest disappointment in the 7.0 job actions. Just delete it already Yoshi-P if you still haven't figured out what it can do.
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  5. #55
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    LynxDubh's Avatar
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    Lynx Dubh
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 100
    It would have really been nice to pair the new dot with more analysis based effects for SCH. It's the vfx package I've really found lacking in recent SCH design. The angel muumuu is just a misstep in the direction of the fairy theme, without the fairy theming.
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  6. #56
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    So...it's clear everyone hates the priest look with discount accessory wings but out of pure curiosity, has there been any footage of how that form looks from the front?
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  7. #57
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    Dear Boy
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    has there been any footage of how that form looks from the front?
    None yet, we have to wait for the media tour stuff to be released for a better look at other angles.
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  8. #58
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I fully expect that it'll look even worse from the front, since the wings are the part that the people who 'like it' are all talking about, and they'd be obscured from the front. In fact, with how robe-y some of the raid sets are (E4S comes to mind very heavily):



    ...From the front, will we even be able to tell that Seraphism was activated, if we're wearing a set like that?

    I'd much rather (like almost everyone, it seems) see a capstone that reinforces the theme of 'battlefield tactician, giving orders to faerie companion'. If they want to increase GCD healing again (bad idea, since it'd just mean 'Spread Adlo is stronger again'), they could do so via something like:

    Synchronization Tactics, 120s CD
    Orders your faerie to move in lockstep with yourself. Each time you cast a spell, the faerie will also cast the same spell, at 25% effectiveness, on the same target. If the cast spell is AOE in nature, the faerie will cast it at her location.
    Duration: 30s

    That way, if the faerie applies a shield because you cast Adlo on someone, that 'Fey Adlo' or whatever it'd be called, would be exempt from Deployment Tactics, keeping SCH's ability to 'delete raid mechanics' in check
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    Last edited by ForsakenRoe; 05-25-2024 at 10:38 PM.

  9. #59
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    Faorin Shadowclaw
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    Balmung
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    Synchronization Tactics, 120s CD
    Orders your faerie to move in lockstep with yourself. Each time you cast a spell, the faerie will also cast the same spell, at 25% effectiveness, on the same target. If the cast spell is AOE in nature, the faerie will cast it at her location.
    Duration: 30s

    That way, if the faerie applies a shield because you cast Adlo on someone, that 'Fey Adlo' or whatever it'd be called, would be exempt from Deployment Tactics, keeping SCH's ability to 'delete raid mechanics' in check
    There was an iteration of PvP SCH that acted similar to this, and I found it pretty fun. Your Summon Eos button would have her hover over your shoulder and cast Embrace on anyone you healed. Each heal drained the fairy gauge.
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  10. #60
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Current PVP Summon Seraph is good. It can be implemented in PVE for as long as it will not remove your current pet. Then bring back Rouse.
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