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    MAD_ARCHITECT's Avatar
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    Doctor Maurer
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    Scholar Lv 100

    Please make the Seraphism model swap optional

    For the love of the Twelve, please make the model swap optional. It's antithetical to the job identity of SCH and actively clashes with the formal academic/military style depicted by the artifact gear, which some of us like to use. Omnihealers and white robe enjoyers might not mind as much, but they also have other class options to play to match that visual fantasy.

    I'm not a fan of Reaper's Enshroud, either, but at least I knew it would be a core part of the class when I picked it up for the first time. Enshroud also resembles the kind of clothing you would expect to put a Reaper in to start with.

    Toggles for both of these would be extremely welcome, but Seraphism most of all. The devs of other major MMOs learned this lesson long ago and gave players options to customize the visuals of certain skills. A change like this would be wonderful.
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    I honestly wouldn't mind the new SCH that much if it wasn't for the horrid design of the Seraphism skill. To have this military academic poison mage don white robes like a WHM and gain even more pretty angelic powers is so out of place it's almost like rubbing salt in the wound at this point.

    "Oh you don't like wearing white frilly dresses? How about we MAKE you."
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    Gullis Hil
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    +1. I'm actually so sad, when I saw it. It's not even a cool transformation, you just turn into a generic robe user with wings

    I do wonder if it's just one model, or if it changes depending on race and gender.
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    Kisa Kisa
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    While I disagree on the "job identity" part (the fairy stuff has been there since level 30,) it's certainly one of those things where players generally spend a lot of time customizing their model and don't want "optimal play" to require specific gear. I remember a part of a different MMO that predates XIV, that the "most powerful" transform that the player could have basically lasted a whole minute, and while transformed they could basically wipe the floor with most content. THAT I want to see avoided.

    I agree that a soft-toggle (like visor up/down) would be fine in this case, and maybe substitute a "just the wings" version (since we know there are wings on two outfits and one apparel wings, we know they can do this.) "/glam seraphism none|wings|off"
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    While I disagree on the "job identity" part (the fairy stuff has been there since level 30,
    To be clear, I am criticizing the change of the player model specifically, not the skill VFX associated with Seraphism. Fairy stuff is fine, of course.

    It is the model swap that has disappointed me and other players who like how our Scholars look. This is chiefly because of the fact that a full transformation, specifically one with an angelic visual, is being stapled on when the fairy and military tactician visuals and motifs are already there to use. Those of us who have requested a winged visual akin to Temperance had something like a modest set of pixie wings in mind, not this.

    Additionally, Scholar has always been the most reserved and least dramatic of the healer jobs, and adding a fullbody transformation at all is quite an ostentatious departure from something many of us really liked about it in the first place.
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    Mihka Terelis
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    Agreed. It's been my main job since leaving ARR, and this kills it for me.
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    it's really lackluster and kinda forces a vibe that I just don't really associate with my character or the job, it doesn't even feel or look fairy it reads angel. I'm also miffed at the skill cutting my tail and ears off like enshroud does
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    I hope nobody catches on that I'm just moving my mouth so these people don't freak out from the telepathic info dump

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    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Eizen Aifread
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    I can live with EW scholar but not this abomination
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    Honestly I'm glad there's at least one place where I agree with people on this. Reddit and Twitter, people are loving this. Despite how it normally feels, the forums are giving me hope for a change lol. Or at least company for my misery
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    Callisto E'elyaa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihka View Post
    Honestly I'm glad there's at least one place where I agree with people on this. Reddit and Twitter, people are loving this. Despite how it normally feels, the forums are giving me hope for a change lol. Or at least company for my misery
    I guess they spent half of the 10$ SCH budget buying positive reviews
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