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    Ahcci Yaa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesan View Post
    Or someone has been daydrinking on the job since the development for ShB started, that is where the Angelfication began.
    The Angelfication of Scholar began with the release of HW, when they gave it the LB3 Angel Feathers. It's still not as well incorporated as the military and fairy motifs for sure, but it's been a part of the job identity since 2015. Not really fair to call it a new change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riyshn View Post
    This argument has always been either ignorant or in bad faith. Complaints about SCH's design have never been about how strong it is; it's always been incredible, and numbers are easy to tweak if needed anyway. The problem is no one on the design team seems to actually play the job, so every time they touch it they make it feel worse to play.
    Preach

    They could give us Broil V with 700 potency and Succor II granting a 2000 potency shield, and that's not gonna magically make me forget all the issues I have with Scholar (anti-synergy with dissipation, downtime dps on healers as a whole being miserably boring (something that isn't magically fixed by just making us heal more, I might add), aesthetic:lore disconnect, etc. etc.)
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    Alys Isshu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihka View Post
    Preach

    They could give us Broil V with 700 potency and Succor II granting a 2000 potency shield, and that's not gonna magically make me forget all the issues I have with Scholar (anti-synergy with dissipation, downtime dps on healers as a whole being miserably boring (something that isn't magically fixed by just making us heal more, I might add), aesthetic:lore disconnect, etc. etc.)
    Plus the rampant angelfication since ShB, as compared to the Military Tactican with a side of biochemist that we had until SB.....the biochemist is sadly taken away by Sage for good at this point.
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    It has such a generic look to it, too. It's like an appearance downgrade. If they want to add more enshroud-like transformations I think they need to make them look more visually interesting than just "robes".
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    Not only does the visual clash with SCH's roots, but the worst of it is that now you'll be FORCED to wear fkin ROBES...
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    Yuki Furostomi
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    Gilgamesh
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    I quite like it.

    I'm fine with the idea of Scholars being academics and even a bit militaristic in style with the Nymian Marines, but I always did find the idea of Faeries being quite the juxtaposition. I have long gotten used to it over the last decade, but I really like the idea that for a moment the more Fae inspired concepts take over your physical form temporarily.

    Gotta imagine it's a buff that probably only lasts like maybe 30 seconds at most on probably a +2 minute cooldown. You are still going to be your staunch, academic/militaristic persona, but every so often you embrace the more (super)naturalistic side of your skills with the help of Lily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsurayu View Post
    I quite like it.

    I'm fine with the idea of Scholars being academics and even a bit militaristic in style with the Nymian Marines, but I always did find the idea of Faeries being quite the juxtaposition. I have long gotten used to it over the last decade, but I really like the idea that for a moment the more Fae inspired concepts take over your physical form temporarily.

    Gotta imagine it's a buff that probably only lasts like maybe 30 seconds at most on probably a +2 minute cooldown. You are still going to be your staunch, academic/militaristic persona, but every so often you embrace the more (super)naturalistic side of your skills with the help of Lily.
    If only this was actually fairy inspired.

    I feel a lot less people would be this upset over it if the form change was into Something more titania or Feo Ul looking.

    Rather than WoW holy priest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    So who wants to go tell the god of wisdom and magic and king of the Viking pantheon that his robes aren't manly enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sani2341 View Post
    If only this was actually fairy inspired.

    I feel a lot less people would be this upset over it if the form change was into Something more titania or Feo Ul looking.

    Rather than WoW holy priest.
    Yeah, I can sorta agree with that.

    But also to be fair, we only briefly saw an image of it and only from the back and there is distinct possibility the design will still be changed form now until early access. I'd be fine if it stayed the way it is, but it certainly could be a bit better, I agree.
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    Mihka Terelis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sani2341 View Post
    If only this was actually fairy inspired.

    I feel a lot less people would be this upset over it if the form change was into Something more titania or Feo Ul looking.

    Rather than WoW holy priest.
    Nope, can't agree. I'd still hate this. I don't like Reaper for the same reason, and that's only up for like.. 15 seconds max.

    Quote Originally Posted by fulminating View Post

    Got bored and doodled some alternatives.
    As you can probably tell, I have nearly no artistic talent. Hopefully the point is presented intelligibly though.
    You are quickly becoming my favourite Lalafell. I probably shouldn't say that too loud, lest Tataru, Krile, and Cider Spider team up to steal my shinbones
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    Last edited by Mihka; 05-17-2024 at 08:20 PM.

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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Imo the cherry on top is the wings are completely static. You'd expect them to at least flap majestically or "fly" as you cast spells while in that form, but they couldn't bother to do even that. Even the accessory angel wings open up when you jump/fall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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