New dawntrial job changes are underwhelming and im not excited

[sindriiisgaming]

Mnk looks amazing what are you talking about.

i feel like this is sarcasm, i like the changes to monk personally but the overall job design on it still isnt my thing. but yes im defiantly excited for it. the problem is monk will just allways be, this kinda monk. in this style of combat, u want to be a buff monk with less dps? no. ur a guy using gokus dragon fist on a wooden dummy and ur gona like it

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

i feel like this is sarcasm, i like the changes to monk personally but the overall job design on it still isnt my thing. but yes im defiantly excited for it. the problem is monk will just allways be, this kinda monk. in this style of combat, u want to be a buff monk with less dps? no. ur a guy using gokus dragon fist on a wooden dummy and ur gona like it

That's the case for every job. We don't have spec trees and thank the gods for that.

[sindriiisgaming]

That's the case for every job. We don't have spec trees and thank the gods for that.

yea but why, saying its bad and not saying why isnt exactly helpful

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

yea but why, saying its bad and not saying why isnt exactly helpful

With talent trees, you either have well balanced ones, which at that point, are just new jobs. Or you have imbalanced ones, at which point, why have them at all.

There is always a wrong choice in a talent tree. They are not equal choices.

[FuturePastNow]

yea but why, saying its bad and not saying why isnt exactly helpful

it's bad because if you give players a right choice and a wrong choice, a lot of them will choose poorly and then you've only widened the gap between good and bad players

[Aelin_Ashryver]

I'm personally more excited for DT job updates than I was for EW. I feel like there is plenty I want to try on release! BLM, MNK, RPR, SCH, AST, PLD, GNB mainly and the rest later as time goes.

[HeyMcFly]

Viper would look cool if you could see what was going on

[Daralii]

Viper would look cool if you could see what was going on

It seems pretty on-par with Reaper in terms of needless and nonsensical visual noise, but the lighter colors make it more of a flashbang.

[WaxSw]

Personally it made me more excited for 8.0. It's looking like a fire xpac if they'll remove all the post Shb shitty job design

[Moqi]

Incredibly underwheling. Not only it's more of the same, but in the name of "streamlining" they are completely killing entire playstyles. Why can't we even have ONE job that is all about DoT/buff upkeep, or about positionals. And now they're giving every healer wings because not happy to homogenize mechanics, they have started homogenizing aesthetics too.

You want us to play only one way? Fine by me, I actually prefer it over talent trees and specs. But at least give us variety in that! Every job should feel different but with every expansion the lines are blurred more and more.


And no, more variety in fight mechanics cannot compensate for the lack of interesting job mechanics, because 90% of this game is still going to be braindead, so any interesting stuff will be relegated to Ultimate and Savage, so anything outside of that will have boring fights on top of boring jobs. And when they focus on job identity in 8.0 (as if), what will happen to the interesting fight mechanics of 7.0? Can't have them anymore because jobs are complex now?