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    Ianmaru's Avatar
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    Ianmaru Voltaire
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    this might be the better solution y'all. come share your thoughts.
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    Tieren'to Mahr
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    I love having resurrection on summoner. The tieback to arcanist/scholar is nice, it fits for the job, and it provides some optional utility and variance that I find super fun in the otherwise extremely static combat system.



    I can't count the number of times I've un-killed a run where a small mistake ended with many/all healers down. I tend to not res until all the healers _are_ down in my party to avoid stepping on toes. If I see another alliance has all healers down I'll probably throw my swiftcast at one of them. If a situation has gotten very clearly dire, we need bodies off the floor, and our healers' swiftcasts are down, I'll step in and pick someone up. Sometimes it saves the day and we're excited about clearing. Sometimes we still wipe and we try again.



    What I can count is the number of times I've used swiftcast for "DPS" in the last couple months. Twice. Once because it seemed cool to hopefully finish off the boss with the swirly green orb blast. Once because I made a poor choice about which order to bring out my summons, and I didn't have the option of standing still for a few seconds for the next few GCDs when it came time to do so. It doesn't skip the long recast time, so unless you need it for movement all it accomplishes is moving a tiny bit of damage slightly earlier, which is going to be offset by you standing around for 3 seconds with nothing to do. I imagine in a very tightly tuned super ultimate maybe that matters; thank goodness you have the option of using swiftcast for that instead if that's the content you want to be using it on.



    The majority argument I see in this thread against keeping it seems to be from the hardcore raiding camp (many of whom are being fairly brusque, needlessly). Hardcore raiding is a small piece of the story-heavy action game we're playing and not required content for anyone. Some of you are even in here saying you dislike playing summoner at all but are being required to by your static to work on progression runs. So... don't? Find a different group to progression raid with that doesn't force you to play something you dislike. Clearly multiple people agree that healers down should be a wipe (unless near enough to clear without), and wipes should be a normal experience, so why push for seeing other mechanics before you're able to clear the earlier phases of a fight in the way you, yourselves, claim is the most fun correct?
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    playing other games like yoshida intended
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    Alondite Ragnell
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    With the shift in fight design being "do perfect or wipe" with non stop body checks I don't see why it cant say.
    I also don't think res taxes are warranted anymore, at most this would just cause unbalance in older content, which it already is seeing how overpowered SMN is at lv 70.
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    Grainne Gothram
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 50
    There is no perfect way to fix this problem so I think the best course of action would be give them long CDs like how blue mage res does.
    Also give healers 2 swiftcats or turn healer res into an ability with a short cd maybe, option 1 seems like the clearer option with current job design.
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