concerning Monk changes

[Amh_Wilzuun]

Okay so basically rather than buffs/a DOT you now have buffing GCDs and spending GCDS.

Dragon Kick gives you one "pip" of buffed nu-bootshine. Twin Snakes gives you two pips of buffed nu-true strike. Demolish gives you three pips of buffed nu-snap punch.

So the rotation outside of burst window is essentially the same, but now people don't have to watch buff timers and can look at the shiny Job Guage™.

With this in mind one guaranteed change is that we no longer need to refresh twin snakes buff before PB. Maybe a bit of complexity lost but not a big deal imo. As for how the 2 min burst window plays out I think that needs some more in-deptth theorycrafting. So we probably won't have the exact optimal drift as before but maybe in exchange you may need to think about having enough "pips" so that your Rising Phoenix PB sequence doesn't use unbuffed GCDs during party buffs. Maybe someone smarter than me can visualize this better or we can wait until media tour

[SpeckledBurd]

So the rotation outside of burst window is essentially the same, but now people don't have to watch buff timers and can look at the shiny Job Guage™.

This hinges on the specifics of the new resources built by Twin Snakes (Raptor Gauge) and Demolish (Coeurl Gauge). If the Raptor gauge buffs all Raptor form GCDs and the Coeurl Gauge buffs all Coeurl form GCDs, then the rotation remains as is. If they just buff True Strike and Snap Punch it's gonna get weird.

Right now Monk's downtime rotation is as follows. I've put what the new gauges will sit at if we need to use them gauge to buff the reapplication of Twin Snakes and Demolish in parenthesis to illustrate how it will look if it doesn't change. I'm just calling them O, R and C for Opo Opo, Raptor, and Coeurl gauges respectively.

DK>TwS>Dem (O:1 R:2 C:3)
BS>TrS>SP (O:0 R:1 C:2)
DK>TwS>SP (O:1 R:0>2 C:1)
Bs>TrS>Dem (O:0 R:1 C:O>3)
DK>TwS>SP (O:1 R:0>2 C:2)
BS>TrS>SP (O:0 R:1 C:1)
DK>TwS>Dem (O:1 R:0>2 C:0>3)

However if the new resource only buffs True Strike and Snap Punch then what the rotation turns into is:

DK>TwS>Dem (O:1 R:2 C:3)
BS>TrS>SP (O:0 R:1 C:2)
DK>TrS>SP (O:1 R:0 C:1)
BS>TwS>SP (O:0 R:2 C:0)
DK>TrS>Dem (O:1 R:1 C:3)
BS>TrS>SP (O:0 R:0 C:2)
DK>TwS>SP (O:1 R:2 C:1)
BS>TrS>SP (O:0 R:1 C:0)
DK>TrS>Dem (O:1 R:0 C:3)
BS>TwS>SP (O:0 R:2 C:2)
DK>TrS>SP (O:1 R:1 C:1)
BS>TrS>SP (O:0 R:0 C:0)

Which is a huge change to Monk's gameplay outside of its burst window.

[Ianmaru]

This hinges on the specifics of the new resources built by Twin Snakes (Raptor Gauge) and Demolish (Coeurl Gauge). If the Raptor gauge buffs all Raptor form GCDs and the Coeurl Gauge buffs all Coeurl form GCDs, then the rotation remains as is. If they just buff True Strike and Snap Punch it's gonna get weird.

Right now Monk's downtime rotation is as follows. I've put what the new gauges will sit at if we need to use them gauge to buff the reapplication of Twin Snakes and Demolish in parenthesis to illustrate how it will look if it doesn't change. I'm just calling them O, R and C for Opo Opo, Raptor, and Coeurl gauges respectively.

DK>TwS>Dem (O:1 R:2 C:3)
BS>TrS>SP (O:0 R:1 C:2)
DK>TwS>SP (O:1 R:0>2 C:1)
Bs>TrS>Dem (O:0 R:1 C:O>3)
DK>TwS>SP (O:1 R:0>2 C:2)
BS>TrS>SP (O:0 R:1 C:1)
DK>TwS>Dem (O:1 R:0>2 C:0>3)

However if the new resource only buffs True Strike and Snap Punch then what the rotation turns into is:

DK>TwS>Dem (O:1 R:2 C:3)
BS>TrS>SP (O:0 R:1 C:2)
DK>TrS>SP (O:1 R:0 C:1)
BS>TwS>SP (O:0 R:2 C:0)
DK>TrS>Dem (O:1 R:1 C:3)
BS>TrS>SP (O:0 R:0 C:2)
DK>TwS>SP (O:1 R:2 C:1)
BS>TrS>SP (O:0 R:1 C:0)
DK>TrS>Dem (O:1 R:0 C:3)
BS>TwS>SP (O:0 R:2 C:2)
DK>TrS>SP (O:1 R:1 C:1)
BS>TrS>SP (O:0 R:0 C:0)

Which is a huge change to Monk's gameplay outside of its burst window.

I think its not going to be like that. I think we're not supposed to drop R & C pips to 0, so the rotation will still be the same as how it currently is.

[Mikey_R]

I think its not going to be like that. I think we're not supposed to drop R & C pips to 0, so the rotation will still be the same as how it currently is.

But, there is no reason to suggest that or why that would be the the case. I basically came to the same conclusion SpeckledBurd did.

Another thing to ponder is whether Bootshine is going to keep the auto crit or not. It is never used at anything other than max Chakra (it is never used when under Brotherhood, however, it also seems GCDs under Brotherhood don't generate a Chakra either, which I hope isn't the case).

Another thing I want to point out is at the end of the Monk showcase, RoE, RoW and RoF. It seems there are actions that proc off of them. RoE has an aura, similar to current PvP RoE. RoW and RoF is where it gets interesting. They are both elemental Hadoukens and they have the GCD yellow VFX. This suggests to me they are available when RoW and RoF are used and are likely to be in the burst window. I also want to speculate that RoW will have some other mechanic we do not see, considering RoF does give a Chakra (or it just crit/auto crit).

There are still many thing we do not know which both makes me excited and nervous for the tool tips to come out of the media tour.

[RyuuZero]

I didn't saw 100 Fists.. so yeah wait and see

[RyuuZero]

hmm I kinda like the 6 button change they brought to Monk or whatever but No 100 Fists at lvl100?? Yeah No sorry it's a Bust