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    Malthir's Avatar
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    Malthir Durnith
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    Cerberus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    A) It's an extremely thematic button for the job, considering the DRK story. Same reason why I quite enjoy TBN even beyond its gameplay purposes.
    B) Compared to just any random DoT skill where you get a brief animation and then the effect of your DoT is basically invisible unless you're solo and/or parsing, it feels much more impactful to use since it attacks and moves on the battlefield, and its attacks appear as flying text adding to the impact. Also speaking as a former game dev, visual impact of a skill/move/ablity/etc does positively/negatively change how people perceive something. It's why hitstun is so nice in games and games that lack it often have people asking to have it added back in. Or even take FF14, where people laughed at Expedience because of how lackluster it was shown isually when the effect on it before nerf was broken.

    Could it have a more direct impact on the kit? Sure. But LS is quite a unique skill in execution compared to traditional DoTs and thematics, it's not that much of a stretch for why people like it. Tons of more casual players go nuts over the huge powerful summons of Bahamut/Phoenix despite them also being effectively glorified DoTs.
    Unique in what way, it's literally a worse version of the machinist Mech Queen.
    It's out highest damage output ability and it's basically press this button for an NPC to come do things
    in fact it's not even an original copy because didn't ninja's have a clone that basically does the same things LS does but also better?
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malthir View Post
    Unique in what way, it's literally a worse version of the machinist Mech Queen.
    It's out highest damage output ability and it's basically press this button for an NPC to come do things
    in fact it's not even an original copy because didn't ninja's have a clone that basically does the same things LS does but also better?
    me when the dps does more damage than the tank
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    Malthir Durnith
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    I'm not complaining about the damage I would always expect DPS to out damage the tank. The point is, how does it add to the Drks kit in anyway. It's a 2m press this for and NPC to appear and do extra damage, button, for a tank. Because as has been said a million times on this forum that the devs just ignore. STOP MAKING THE TANKS BLUE DPS AND ACTUALLY BUILD TANK MECHANICS
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    Last edited by Malthir; 05-17-2024 at 02:43 AM.

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    Sid Zarkovitch
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Shit, salt earth is still a thing. The changes seem fine. 7.1 they going add sustain due to feedback xD
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    Pepper Oni
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Malthir View Post
    I'm not complaining about the damage I would always expect DPS to out damage the tank. The point is, how does it add to the Drks kit in anyway. It's a 2m press this for and NPC to appear and do extra damage, button, for a tank. Because as has been said a million times on this forum that the devs just ignore. STOP MAKING THE TANKS BLUE DPS AND ACTUALLY BUILD TANK MECHANICS
    Would be cool if Esteem counted as a stack partner at least.
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    Astronis Smythe
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    Would be cool if Esteem counted as a stack partner at least.
    He should share his Abyssal Drain with me, selfish bastard.

    I love the flavor of Living Shadow, having it duplicate our skills would be neat.
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astronis View Post
    He should share his Abyssal Drain with me, selfish bastard.

    I love the flavor of Living Shadow, having it duplicate our skills would be neat.
    It be pretty sick if it doubled your resource generation or something allowing for crazier burst windows or something along those lines.

    As an incredibly minor point, I'm glad they're adding Disesteem to his attack pattern because losing Quietus made me wonder if this skill was even worth using in trash packs. Not that it makes the skill all that more engaging.
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    Izayoi Akagane
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    It be pretty sick if it doubled your resource generation or something allowing for crazier burst windows or something along those lines.

    As an incredibly minor point, I'm glad they're adding Disesteem to his attack pattern because losing Quietus made me wonder if this skill was even worth using in trash packs. Not that it makes the skill all that more engaging.
    It's still 2k potency dot so it was still worth using anyway, but it was pretty lame.
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    Raen Nadiin
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Malthir View Post
    I'm not complaining about the damage I would always expect DPS to out damage the tank. The point is, how does it add to the Drks kit in anyway. It's a 2m press this for and NPC to appear and do extra damage, button, for a tank. Because as has been said a million times on this forum that the devs just ignore. STOP MAKING THE TANKS BLUE DPS AND ACTUALLY BUILD TANK MECHANICS
    the greatest mit of all is the boss being dead. More DPS = more mechanics skipped.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Malthir View Post
    Unique in what way, it's literally a worse version of the machinist Mech Queen.
    At least your pet does AoE, ours still doesn't after 2 expansions...
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