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  1. #61
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    But it's their game not ours so whatever. Pretty sure they gave the cool stuff to Warrior again.
    I don't know if I'd call a VFX update to the copy of Inner Beast and two mindless burst oGCDs that you get for free by doing the exact same thing you've been doing for the entirety of Endwalker, and arguably the same thing you've been doing for 6 years now, "the cool stuff".

    Warrior's new abilities might look flashy but they're the most boring thing ever in execution and require about as much input from the player as a game by The Chinese Room.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 05-22-2024 at 11:44 PM.

  2. #62
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    GoatOfWar's Avatar
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    Pepper Oni
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse View Post
    Lol they just gave it a one-winged angel ability. Just like they gave Cloud one wing in KH. It's not as far off as you'd think.
    Besides the Vpose i don't really see a lot of commonalities.
    Would have loved an Omnislash or sword beam though.
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  3. #63
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    Besides the Vpose i don't really see a lot of commonalities.
    Would have loved an Omnislash or sword beam though.
    Doesn't Shadowbringer and Flood basically fill that need?
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  4. #64
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    Pepper Oni
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Doesn't Shadowbringer and Flood basically fill that need?
    Omnislash is a melee combo, and sword beam would replace whatever that shitty looking ranged GCD is supposed to be.
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  5. #65
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    Keagian Lowell
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    Cactuar
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    Omnislash is a melee combo, and sword beam would replace whatever that shitty looking ranged GCD is supposed to be.
    Level 2 Melee Limit Break 'Blade Dance' is already Omni Slash.

    Seems like we're going from Cecil Dark Knight to slowly becoming Dark Sephiroth.
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  6. #66
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    Pepper Oni
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keagian View Post
    Level 2 Melee Limit Break 'Blade Dance' is already Omni Slash.

    Seems like we're going from Cecil Dark Knight to slowly becoming Dark Sephiroth.
    It's a button that appears on the screen for 2 seconds once every 120 seconds.
    I'd rather have meaningful changes to my gameplay. But Dawntrail just removes and consolidates a bunch of stuff and then gives us this piece of shit button you hardly get to press at all.
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    Last edited by GoatOfWar; 05-23-2024 at 03:18 AM.

  7. #67
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    DRKoftheAzure's Avatar
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    Gridania and Ul'dah (because Ishgard not allowed to be starting city-state :c)
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    Strea Leonhart
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Living Shadow resetting the CD on Delirium would of made more sense to me and then you have Eventide combo off Shadowbringer. I dunno who makes these design decisions but my fighting game muscle memory brain cells just want to commit ritual suicide when I see stuff like this..
    Some investor who has never played a video game in their entire life or something like that... let alone a game as a live service like Final Fantasy 14...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArianeEwah View Post
    Making things brain dead doesn't solve problems.

  8. #68
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    Strea Leonhart
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mortex View Post
    God I just hate living shadow. It’s a glorified dot that you press every 2 mins but atleast now you have to save up 50 gauge for it and why in the seven hells does the shadow not copy the moves you do (for crying out loud it’s a “shadow”) while bunshin does or even then why doesn’t it just get cool animations or randomise the ability it does. Can’t wait for the gauge not mattering at all for my burst window anymore as drk. Just random bullshit go even harder, it’s just warrior with extra steps and less sustain
    If I was Final Fantasy 14 game dev that actually played Dark Knight and was looking player feedback, I would delete Living Shadow and give Dark Knight a 6-7 step AoE burst combo GCD on 30 second cooldown that also has 2.00 GCD recast that also costs 3k MP and a 3-4 step single target burst combo GCD that is similar to the AOE combo but only with a 15 second cooldown being the main difference by re-working a lot of oGCDs into GCDs and giving them more additional effects that would fit the theme of Dark Knight such as buffs on Dark Knight that also apply a respective debuff on the enemy/enemies(i.e., HoT on the Dark Knight and DoT on enemies or damage dealt buff up on Dark Knight and damage dealt down debuff on enemies or even damage received down buff on Dark Knight and damage recieved up debuff on enemies), and both WOULD have the option to have the full combo consolidated into a single button OR individual buttons on the hotbar for those who want to give themselves a bit of a challenge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArianeEwah View Post
    Making things brain dead doesn't solve problems.

  9. #69
    Player Mortex's Avatar
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    Rigor Mortex
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    If I was Final Fantasy 14 game dev that actually played Dark Knight and was looking player feedback, I would delete Living Shadow and give Dark Knight a 6-7 step AoE burst combo GCD on 30 second cooldown that also has 2.00 GCD recast that also costs 3k MP and a 3-4 step single target burst combo GCD that is similar to the AOE combo but only with a 15 second cooldown being the main difference by re-working a lot of oGCDs into GCDs and giving them more additional effects that would fit the theme of Dark Knight such as buffs on Dark Knight that also apply a respective debuff on the enemy/enemies(i.e., HoT on the Dark Knight and DoT on enemies or damage dealt buff up on Dark Knight and damage dealt down debuff on enemies or even damage received down buff on Dark Knight and damage recieved up debuff on enemies), and both WOULD have the option to have the full combo consolidated into a single button OR individual buttons on the hotbar for those who want to give themselves a bit of a challenge.
    Sounds better than that garbage 123 until 2 minute window. Also almost all bosses be like “oh you have to ogcd over 10 dmg Buttons ? Here have a tankbuster so you have to weave also 4 defensive buttons as drk”

    I do remember when mana actually did matter for bonus effects on abilities and defensive cooldowns. Also think about it also they took away triple bloodspiller for another 123 rotation (we really like pressing 123 for almost an entire minute straight only to just face roll the keyboard for all ogcds). Pretty sure if you take of all defensive cds and other stuff you could 100 % face roll your burst phase as long as you hit the gcd buttons you need.
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  10. #70
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    Gisela Thorne
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    I don't know if I'd call a VFX update to the copy of Inner Beast and two mindless burst oGCDs that you get for free by doing the exact same thing you've been doing for the entirety of Endwalker, and arguably the same thing you've been doing for 6 years now, "the cool stuff".

    Warrior's new abilities might look flashy but they're the most boring thing ever in execution and require about as much input from the player as a game by The Chinese Room.
    I was about to say. I don't think there's a brain cell left to remove in the WAR rotation, but I thought that up until level 80 too. They'll find a way.
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