Forced aesthetic changes should not exist

[Turtledeluxe]

I use strong language when discussing things I have strong opinions about, particularly when those words effectively condense multiple aspects of how I feel into a much more concise package.

I could say "Abilities that replace a player's character model - which is often carefully glamoured after hundreds of hours to create a specific aesthetic style that is in line with the player's desired image of themselves and expression of their class identity - with a model that has a set in stone aesthetic seriously undermines character agency in the way they are perceived and the way they experience and express their job identity, which are very important factors in this game due to the high emphasis on role playing and the social aspect of the game".

Or, I can condense the vast majority of that sentiment into "hijacking the player's character model", which effectively conveys my dislike of the system and the way it intrusively alters the job identity with no regard for a player's character aesthetic.

As Roda said; any developer worth their salt should be capable of reading feedback and distilling it for useable information. Though, I would clarify this is usually filtered through a good community management team, whose job is to make sure the spirit of feedback reaches developers without the need for developers to spend their development time dealing with mountains of player noise every day.

Yes. To quote myself:

That doesn't in any way make the feedback invalid or even weaker. It just feels almost distracting and redundant to say. For example

"The job transformations are a horrible concept and should be optional."
"The forced job transformations are a horrible concept and should be optional."

Both things communicate the same thing, but one makes it worse by adding in this word. That's how it seems to me.

It's really just this. I don't find it to be concise, or condensing. But you do you.

And it's like you said, developers have a responsibility to interpret the feedback in a way most useful to them.

I think your posts indicate that your very last concern is being "concise" and in fact, you're here to troll.

[Mihka]

It's really just this. I don't find it to be concise, or condensing. But you do you.

Then perhaps you should expand your vocabulary and not take everything at face value /shrug

[OgruMogru]

Idk if the aesthetics didn't feel like the equivalent of getting a panic box of raisins because mum ran out of halloween candy it wouldn't feel so much like it was being forced upon people.

[GrizzlyTank]

Changing stuff like eye color or giving you various forms of effects are fine. but when you cut off my tail...

[fulminating]

I would be upset but more understanding if it were an enforced tonberry phase. I am just baffled that it is a white mage phase.

[Roda]

I would be upset but more understanding if it were an enforced tonberry phase. I am just baffled that it is a white mage phase.

GOD YOU'RE SO FREAKING RIGHT, YOUR BRAIN IS HUGE

for the record, total transformation > partial transformation into a hyur with particle effects. I prefer partial transformations that retain character choices like racial features where reasonable (so like, if there was a skill that gave you a centaur or naga-like bodyplan, you could drop the tail), but full transformations can get as crazy as they want imo.



Post limit already?????? at 13?????? CAN'T EVEN POST FOURTEEN TIMES ON MY FINAL FANTASY FOURTEEN WEBSITE?!

It's think it's a combo of that and it just made me wonder "well then what isn't forced?". I guess buying a house isn't forced. But lots of other things in the game fall under this definition of "force".

That doesn't in any way make the feedback invalid or even weaker. It just feels almost distracting and redundant to say. For example

"The job transformations are a horrible concept and should be optional."
"The forced job transformations are a horrible concept and should be optional."

Both things communicate the same thing, but one makes it worse by adding in this word. That's how it seems to me.

To me the first one reads like the person fully DOES NOT LIKE even the concept of transformations while offering a solution that acknowledges that other people may like the function.
The second one reads like the person MIGHT like to enjoy transformations, but on their terms, and would prefer a solution that gives them more agency in the situation.

So if you removed the suggested solutions (which gamers are notoriously bad at giving the right ones) to
"The job transformations are a horrible concept." (fully DOES NOT LIKE even the concept of transformations)
"The forced job transformations are a horrible concept." (MIGHT like to enjoy transformations, but on their terms)

The second one can be solved with adding a toggle, while the first one wants it gone entirely. So, adding the extra flair of feeling forced actually helps give a more open feeling to the idea of transformations.

[Mihka]

I would be upset but more understanding if it were an enforced tonberry phase. I am just baffled that it is a white mage phase.

As a Lalafell, I'm pretty sure nothing would change if you became a Tonberry

[TaleraRistain]

I am usually all for options but in this case the change is part of the aesthetic of the job. Something like Enshroud for instance is part of the job identity and is a visual representation of that identity. I don't agree that someone should get the benefits of the job identity in terms of using the skill but without embracing that identity.

[GTK0HLK]

Simply Put, Your Racial Features should not Disappear.

Makes it much more neater if your racial features get voidsent traits.
Like Miqo'te/Hrothgar Ears and Tails Get more Feral. And Hrothgar and Moonkitty fangs are noticeable.

Au Ra Scales And Horns Get Unnatural effects.

Lalafels can morph into Tonberries(Semi-jk)

As for Elezen can Become more Castlevania.

And Hyur/Roes just Become the Poster Child of a Well Built Reaper, or skeletal reaper.

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As for the Topic of Seraphism.

I like the Concept, No it does not go against what scholar is. (If anything You can View it as A Fairy/Angel/Winged Creature of KNOWLEDGE/TACTICS)

It's basically Being True to what Fairies Are.
While WHMs have always been with the Elementals (Thus their More Connection to the elements. But also Inadvertently, Stasis/LightAether.)

There is no Conflict here.

While Seraphism could be represented in a better way, maybe have a Seraph Glow on the wings, or the whole body(lightly) its alright.

[SongOfTheWind]

I very strongly dislike this tendency too. To me the Phoenix mount and Zenos possessing the WoL also walk alongside this.