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    velswen's Avatar
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    V'els Wen
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Taliriah View Post
    Having to maintain a buff is neither interesting and engaging, its just busywork. Busywork is not gameplay depth. Having to make vaguely interesting decisions is. I'm happy that they're removing it, it will be interesting to see what they do with armor crush and hurajin. Hopefully the decision to finish the combo with armor break rather than aeolian edge will be something more interesting than the current "is huton about to expire" single braincell decision.

    Also looking forward not to have to do huton+vanish before each boss
    It is interesting to me. You may disagree, but that is your opinion. It does make it more interesting and involves additional separate gameplay considerations if you are KO'd or there is long downtime. For instance, if the boss becomes invincible for a long period of time, you may have to refresh your buff earlier than normal to avoid losing the buff or having to use Ninjutsu/Hurajin to reapply it. That is depth. Just because you can't see it or don't enjoy it doesn't mean it isn't an added layer.
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    Makoto Hinata
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    Louisoix
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by velswen View Post
    It is interesting to me. You may disagree, but that is your opinion. It does make it more interesting and involves additional separate gameplay considerations if you are KO'd or there is long downtime. For instance, if the boss becomes invincible for a long period of time, you may have to refresh your buff earlier than normal to avoid losing the buff or having to use Ninjutsu/Hurajin to reapply it. That is depth. Just because you can't see it or don't enjoy it doesn't mean it isn't an added layer.
    "I may have to press a different button sometimes" is depth. ok
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    Saika Kinoshita
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    why am i not surprised it's getting cut. these devs, honestly.
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    Zira Zira
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    Jenova
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Is there a single job that is improving on this miserable expansion?
    It seems everyone took a hit somewhere and nothing new makes up for it.
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    Thel Eruyt
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    Is there a single job that is improving on this miserable expansion?
    It seems everyone took a hit somewhere and nothing new makes up for it.
    would say that I like the mch (probably I am one of the few, but I just love my toys) and not having to worry that "now I have 70 hear and per muscle memory I used the skill that gices me 50, so 20 is gone though the drain" anymore

    I hate the summoner addition of pictomancers fanfic bahamut

    now on with the actual topic (huton) im fine with it, (talking as someone that plays Ninja as only an alter) because I keep forgeting to renew it. so at least I belive its a good change for casual ninjas. (can't talk about main ninjas)
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    Larc Grumbles
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    What the hell is the depth that they're adding to the game, then? All they do is streamline and remove things. To make room. For what? Another action you can use once every 2 minutes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Post View Post
    What the hell is the depth that they're adding to the game, then? All they do is streamline and remove things. To make room. For what? Another action you can use once every 2 minutes?
    I don't know where and if they're adding depth, but removing pointless busywork is good nonetheless.
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    Calv Silhart
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    Behemoth
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Taliriah View Post
    I don't know where and if they're adding depth, but removing pointless busywork is good nonetheless.
    Unfortunately, after years of removing depth (and everything remotely resembling it) from the jobs, they're not suddenly going to start bringing it back. At the rate we're going, it's only a matter of time before they ax something you like about the job you play--all in the name of removing "pointless busywork", because that is quite literally all that is left now.
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    Zira Zira
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    Please understand, gotta simplify the jobs so you can focus more on having no fun while you wipe to the 20th body check in the raid, you know... the raids nobody that asks for these changes does in the first place.
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    Ilyn Payne
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I kinda had a feeling this would be the case . It was inevitable but I don't mind since it frees up a button and the Huton mudra is now more then a one and done prebattle as it appears to be a wind aoe now . It looks like there's enough abilities and changes added to make up for it IMO and make me more excited to keep maining it as I was considering playing viper. Honestly a ninja should be naturally fast with a alot of ninja tools to play with which seems the direction they're going with instead of just maintaining Ninki and Huton outside of your burst .

    I've been playing since 2.0/NIN main since StormB but never really got into pvp till the beginning of EW and found it refreshing not having to worry about Huton and just straight up murking fools from the get go . I think people will realize how much of a burden it was once it's gone
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