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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    I think the right fix has to be requiring equipping gear that is equal to your level to enter roulettes. If you are level 90 in that role, then you must be wearing all level 90 gear to enter the roulette. The ilevel requirement would still apply to do the harder content, but players should not be able to cheese the roulette by removing gear to bring down the ilevel.
    where were you in the past months? Because they did just that but as many had predicted it changed nothing.

    The problem was not iLvl cheese. CT comes back often because it is the only mandatory raid and the only raid someone can do until they reach a certain point in msq. You could be in full 660 gear and you would still be able to do only CT if you haven’t unlocked the other raids. Also, a new player who reaches lvl 60 may still not be able to unlock the next raid series as it is locked behind MSQ. They have to finish the expansion before that, same for the other lvl 70, 80 and 90 raids. The player base is simply much broader for CT.

    Unlocking all the raids takes time. If someone started years ago, it’s a non issue but for a new player, just doing MSQ to get to engame is already quite long. Unlocking optional raids is probably not a priority.

    Personally, I purchased a character upgrade to play with friends on a EU DC and nothing besides MSQ was unlocked, not even glamours or chocobo fighting beside you…there were blue markers all over the map. It took a me while to unlock ARs as you have to run some quest chain, queue, wait and then do the raid (I have not unlocked the last Nier raid and will never do so on that character as it gives me a migraine). Repeat x 11. SE has also put the quest givers in the middle of nowhere: a new player who is doing MSQ will not think of going back to Kholusia to speak to that dwarf away from everything on the map. Several new players to whim i have spoken didn’t even know there were other alliance raids besides CT.

    There are lots of new players with xbox and there’s going to be even more with DT so CT will keep popping. The only way to fix this is to start giving real incentives to unlock the other raids and maybe move the initial quest givers to more obvious locations and give the quest markers a different colors as atm it’s just another blue marker among many.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 05-16-2024 at 10:14 PM.

  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    The problem was not iLvl cheese. CT comes back often because it is the only mandatory raid and the only raid someone can do until they reach a certain point in msq. You could be in full 660 gear and you would still be able to do only CT if you haven’t unlocked the other raids. Also, a new player who reaches lvl 60 may still not be able to unlock the next raid series as it is locked behind MSQ. They have to finish the expansion before that, same for the other lvl 70, 80 and 90 raids. The player base is simply much broader for CT.

    Just to add, some people (like me) have multiple alts. As I have experienced the story of all the raids, and don’t particularly want or need anything that drops from any of them on my alts, I will never, ever…ever.. unlock anything but the CT raids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Just to add, some people (like me) have multiple alts. As I have experienced the story of all the raids, and don’t particularly want or need anything that drops from any of them on my alts, I will never, ever…ever.. unlock anything but the CT raids.
    This is why we need a higher power to smite us all.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    I abuse the roulette for my own gain at the expense of others because I have too many alts is definitely one of the stances on this issue of all time
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    The maain problem i see with OP's suggestion is if you move that raid to MSQ roulette it will affect that roulette also and even iif you did remove CT ffrom Raid roulette you would only ever get the world of darkness raid aswell as that seems to be the second highest raid to always pop for me, so yeah it just wouldnt work sadly, you'd be killing another roulette just to get another raid on repeat.
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    They could just lock the alliance roulette if the player hasn't unlocked all the alliance raids available to be unlocked at their current level, mentor already kind of works like that, and also double the rewards for good measure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
    The maain problem i see with OP's suggestion is if you move that raid to MSQ roulette it will affect that roulette also and even iif you did remove CT ffrom Raid roulette you would only ever get the world of darkness raid aswell as that seems to be the second highest raid to always pop for me, so yeah it just wouldnt work sadly, you'd be killing another roulette just to get another raid on repeat.
    While the first two are more common, World of Darkness is a Crystal Tower raid and also included in the discussion.

    Sure, then one could make the argument that HW raids will become the new default, but HW is peak and at lv60 jobs start to feel better and more enjoyable to play, so good, let it happen. This is the world I want to live in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Because CT is specifically required for Endwalker storyline reason...
    Lest anyone else repeat this mistaken belief: The Crystal Tower raids are specifically required for Shadowbringers storyline reasons, not Endwalker.

    This is one of the many reasons that complaints about CT are nearly 5 years old, not something that just happened this expansion.

    As for the poster's suggestion that follows: "pick the hardest content every player has cleared ..." could very well be CT, which is, again, why that particular set of raids comes up so frequently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Just to add, some people (like me) have multiple alts. As I have experienced the story of all the raids, and don’t particularly want or need anything that drops from any of them on my alts, I will never, ever…ever.. unlock anything but the CT raids.
    Interesting, I have many alts but more often than not I do the reverse of what you do and unlock all the alliance raids I can.

    I like to put together themed glamour plates for my different characters and I find the best glamour pieces often come from alliance raids. (Especially Weeping City/Yafaemi and Ivalice everything). I did do the whole Shadow of Mhach on one character just for the scarf, which is a nice glam to have, and (while not technically glam) I did ivalice questline to completion on several characters just for the cute hairstyle.

    I don't ever progress my alts past my mid-shb main though I am looking forward to Nier.
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    Erine Carmin
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    I feel like instead of moving them to MSQ, they should fix the iLvl so we can experience these raids as they were released. I don't mind the AR alliances because at least if I queue into them now it's because someone needs them to level up or to progress the story, rather than players cheesing and pulling all the people in queue to AR alliances just because they are lazy.
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