Crystal Tower raids should moved to Main Scenario Roulette

[Kathryn]

The maain problem i see with OP's suggestion is if you move that raid to MSQ roulette it will affect that roulette also and even iif you did remove CT ffrom Raid roulette you would only ever get the world of darkness raid aswell as that seems to be the second highest raid to always pop for me, so yeah it just wouldnt work sadly, you'd be killing another roulette just to get another raid on repeat.

[SigmarrIrenesch]

The maain problem i see with OP's suggestion is if you move that raid to MSQ roulette it will affect that roulette also and even iif you did remove CT ffrom Raid roulette you would only ever get the world of darkness raid aswell as that seems to be the second highest raid to always pop for me, so yeah it just wouldnt work sadly, you'd be killing another roulette just to get another raid on repeat.

While the first two are more common, World of Darkness is a Crystal Tower raid and also included in the discussion.

Sure, then one could make the argument that HW raids will become the new default, but HW is peak and at lv60 jobs start to feel better and more enjoyable to play, so good, let it happen. This is the world I want to live in.

[ZiraZ]

They could just lock the alliance roulette if the player hasn't unlocked all the alliance raids available to be unlocked at their current level, mentor already kind of works like that, and also double the rewards for good measure.

[AngelicDeath]

Honesty yes and no
I feel yes cause if you are on a deader DC and even make party finders to even clear it undersized it still takes a good while to fill even if it does.. and a lot of new players are stuck on progressing (someone in my group couldn't get it finished for weeks they are from oceanic so they can't just DC hop to na or anything like that)

[TaleraRistain]

Forcing people to unlock all the alliance raids to use the roulette would be damaging to lower population DCs that already struggle with queues. And there would probably be an effect even on higher population DCs as people who did the roulette because it was there from unlocking CT for story just stop doing that roulette when it locks them out and they don't know why.

[RealHounder1971]

Believe me, people still mess that beginning raids up. Especially the impatient ones that start Atmos fights in Labyrinth before everyone is there. Saw it last night as the fight took much longer than it should since only 4 of the people from C group made it in before the start, and rest ended up with us when they got teleported in due to a tank just doing his own thing.

So yea, people still mess those up.

[Kemiko]

There's a couple of things here that I feel like is a culmination of several experiences that leads to an overall desire to avoid Crystal Tower raids.

* It is the most common Alliance Raid in the Alliance Raid Roulette.
> This is caused by several factors. First, by the roulette being attainable by merely unlocking Crystal Tower without the rest of the raids, making it more similar to Leveling Roulette than some of the others, which requires you to unlock more and more duties to continue having access to the roulette. Solution: Require at least 1 of every raid you qualify for (preferably via story completion rather than level).
> This COULD have been caused by item level manipulation, but that's been solved. And purely to avoid manipulation it should remain.
> It's required by Main Scenario to complete. This could be solved by lumping it into the MSQ Roulette or by the first point of this.

* The raid is boring.
> It is the OLDEST raid of them all. Labyrinth of the Ancients is 10 years old now.
> It's the raid most severely hit by item level bloat. Labyrinth of the Ancients was done primarily in Darklight gear on launch at i70. Some folks were coming in on gear fresh from dungeons at i65. People were farming for upgrades that it dropped, which are i80. You SYNC to i130. That's almost double the ilv of what people on average had gear wise going into it. You barely even see the mechanics in World of Darkness and that drops i120 gear and had folks on average in i100 to i110 on launch.
> It syncs you to LV50. We have had jobs release on launch for 6 years now that come either at LV50 or higher and don't feel like complete jobs on release on purpose. This is before we even hit the discussion that as time has moved forward classes have granted WoL's less and less skills, skills have been moved, removed, or consolidated and thus LV50 that was once level cap when CT released is going to be the halfway mark of our adventure. LV50 is the most boring and awfully paced content for all things not called Blue Mage.

A rework to the level sync I think is understandable for the raids. It's mechanics are pretty outdated compared to the rest of the game and could see some touch ups. Both of those would be appreciable to making the raid more tolerable but the undeniable truth is: It's LV50. And nothing's going to change that you're going to be forced to be there at LV50. Which is just an awful place for all jobs.

[Yuella]

They should require you to unlock the first alliance raid for each expansion in order to queue into the alliance roulette at level 60/70/80/90. (level 60+ require Void Ark unlock to do the roulette, level 70+ require Rabanstre and so on)

[Toutatis]

They should require you to unlock the first alliance raid for each expansion in order to queue into the alliance roulette at level 60/70/80/90. (level 60+ require Void Ark unlock to do the roulette, level 70+ require Rabanstre and so on)

Let's not do the mistake of tying things to level alone as everything in this game is tied to MSQ progress. By the time I reached the point where I could unlock the HW raids, I was about lvl 70 and close to 80 at the end of Stormblood. It's almost impossible not to over level these days due to all the bonuses and it's impossible to unlock a new raids series until you've finished the corresponding expansion. It would just make things worse as people would not necessarily be willing to backtrack.

[Supersnow845]

Let's not do the mistake of tying things to level alone as everything in this game is tied to MSQ progress. By the time I reached the point where I could unlock the HW raids, I was about lvl 70 and close to 80 at the end of Stormblood. It's almost impossible not to over level these days due to all the bonuses and it's impossible to unlock a new raids series until you've finished the corresponding expansion. It would just make things worse as people would not necessarily be willing to backtrack.

If you are overlevelled on your main job you don’t need to be doing the alliance roulette anyway do this isn’t a problem