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    Crystal Tower raids should moved to Main Scenario Roulette

    Hot (and not at all new) take, perhaps, but even with the ilvl fix from way back when the Alliance Raids roulette has been dominantly CT. You have to unlock and do CT for Main Scenario, never have to touch any of the other raids and you still have access to the roulette which sucks. Why is this a thing? Why not just move it to Main Scenario and have Alliance be lv60 and up like Normal?

    I wouldn't mind helping new players with the raids, but more often than not there are no first timers. We have 12 other fun raids with more on the way, please let me play them too. >:[

    EDIT: where's the "be" in my title :'(
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    Last edited by SigmarrIrenesch; 05-15-2024 at 05:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmarrIrenesch View Post
    Hot (and not at all new) take, perhaps, but even with the ilvl fix from way back when the Alliance Raids roulette has been dominantly CT. You have to unlock and do CT for Main Scenario, never have to touch any of the other raids and you still have access to the roulette which sucks. Why is this a thing? Why not just move it to Main Scenario and have Alliance be lv60 and up like Normal?

    I wouldn't mind helping new players with the raids, but more often than not there are no first timers. We have 12 other fun raids with more on the way, please let me play them too. >:[
    They would be very hard to fill in MSQ roulette given that they require 24 ppl.
    Also why remove a roulette from lvl 50-60 players and players that have not gotten to the point where they can unlock other raids (because everything in this game is locked behind MSQ progression). When levelling a combat job between lvl 50 and 60, the daily AR provides decent XP along with Pvp, levelling and MSQ. There is not much else to do at those levels once you’ve done the story.

    You can still queue for the raid you want.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 05-15-2024 at 06:27 AM.

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    I think a separate roulette for the level 50 raids makes more sense, but they should be separated somehow. Level 50 has become very simplified at this point, and with them being enforced, they remain biased in the alliance roulette. Separating them out would also hopefully allow reverting the alliance roulette level lock that keep preventing players from queuing.
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    It is an alliance raid though.

    You can make a similar argument with normal raids. It’s mostly fist of the father (alex).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    why remove a roulette for lvl 50-60 players and players that have not gotten to the point where they can unlock other raids because everything in this game is locked behind MSQ progression. When levelling a combat job between lvl 50 and 60, the daily AR provides decent XP along with Pvp, levelling and MSQ.
    Not having access to one roulette for leveling until later wouldn't hurt the lv50-60 experience too much since you level up very fast while progressing through the game normally anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    You can still queue for the raid you want.
    Why have roulettes at all since we can all queue for the duties we want?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    You can make a similar argument with normal raids. It’s mostly fist of the father (alex).
    Getting Alexander raids on Normal roulette is not nearly as dominant as getting Crystal Tower on Alliance. It feels more random since you get raids from all expansions instead of just one of the first two from ARR days in a row, sometimes even a week in a row.
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    My take is that a few more things should be added to the MSQ roulette, so that it's not just 3 duties. Maybe add the final dungeon for each expansion. Something to pad it out a bit. The duties don't have to be removed from other roulette either, just add a little more to MSQ roulette.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Then people would just whine they get Void Ark all the time in it. They need to increase the reasons for people to queue for non-CT or make more of them required for some content (like Void Ark is needed for Tataru).
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    Last edited by TaleraRistain; 05-15-2024 at 06:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmarrIrenesch View Post
    Not having access to one roulette for leveling until later wouldn't hurt the lv50-60 experience too much since you level up very fast while progressing through the game normally anyway.
    That works for the first few jobs only. Once done with the story, there isn’t much to level up a job at those levels.


    Why have roulettes at all since we can all queue for the duties we want?
    Roulette is there to fill groups that need filling. If you want a specific raid, just queue for it. You will also force the roulette to find you teammates.

    Some raids take longer to fill than others as less people have them unlocked and some pop a lot more rarely not only because of fewer unlocks but also because nobody needs to do them. Atm we mostly see ARR and EW raids (got Thaleia 3xnights in a row). EW because players who joined during that expansion have probably unlocked those while playing EW and because people still queue them for the tokens.

    For a new player starting today, they have a long way to go before reaching the end of EW and unlocking optional raids along the way may not be a priority. Unlocking all the optional raids takes time (stories + queue + raid time). I also know several players who didn’t know there were other alliance raids until they were told about as SE has put the quest givers in the middle of nowhere, requiring the player to come back to an area after the MSQ is done with that area. There are lots of blue markers and nothing to indicate which ones are Alliance raids.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 05-15-2024 at 07:38 AM. Reason: Bad english

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    This is kinda dumb, ngl.

    MSQ roulette was implemented to fill duties that literally nobody would ever intentionally willingly queue for outside of their mandatory MSQ requirement, due to the amount of cutscenes packed into each duty. It's not there just to shunt off all the content you don't want to see again.
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    Don't do alliance raid roulette if you're not willing to do all of the raids you've unlocked. If you want a specific raid, then queue for it.
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