Pvp chat is an outdated system that doesn't work anymore

[Aidorouge]

I'd still say the quick chat is the lesser of the two evils. I would rather have a quick chat where the spam can be muted by turning down the system sounds, make a macro for it even. Rather than someone raging in text chat, stopping the match to type at each other, and saying rather vile things.

"Shutting off" quick chat in that way just seems to emphasize how useless it currently is though, in that it rarely gets used as intended during a match and is always used for mockery after.

Hell, I don't even have any of the quick chat stuff on my own PVP hotbars because I already know they're a waste despite how much free space there is, and simply adding *more* quick chat options isn't going to make me any more inclined to care about them. On the contrary, it just adds more stuff I can safely ignore during a match (because they'll never be used properly anyway) or someone will turn one or more of the new quick chats into the new post-match insult.

Can people use normal chat to make jerks of themselves? Of course they will, I see it all the time in Frontlines/Rival Wings, but I also see the chat there make a difference with shot-calling/pinch warnings. With Crystaline Conflict, you just kinda derp-zerg into the crystal/enemy team and hope things work out for you because there's no useful way to communicate otherwise. Could be teamed up with AI-controlled bots at that point for all the difference it makes.

[LynxDubh]

"Shutting off" quick chat in that way just seems to emphasize how useless it currently is though, in that it rarely gets used as intended during a match and is always used for mockery after.

Hell, I don't even have any of the quick chat stuff on my own PVP hotbars because I already know they're a waste despite how much free space there is, and simply adding *more* quick chat options isn't going to make me any more inclined to care about them. On the contrary, it just adds more stuff I can safely ignore during a match (because they'll never be used properly anyway) or someone will turn one or more of the new quick chats into the new post-match insult.

Can people use normal chat to make jerks of themselves? Of course they will, I see it all the time in Frontlines/Rival Wings, but I also see the chat there make a difference with shot-calling/pinch warnings. With Crystaline Conflict, you just kinda derp-zerg into the crystal/enemy team and hope things work out for you because there's no useful way to communicate otherwise. Could be teamed up with AI-controlled bots at that point for all the difference it makes.

You sound rather assured in your defeatism. I find the quick chats handy for coordination and targeting when people use it along with macros. They could use with extra and more through and informative options like others have posted in this thread.

But, having free chat in CC would give an avenue for people to keyboard PvP. Which heavily affects 5v5 CC games as opposed to 24v24v24 FL games. Salt is gonna salt, sometimes the best thing is to restrict how the salt can flow.

[Eastwall]

I think Se doesn't want to deal with that.

[sindriiisgaming]

I think Se doesn't want to deal with that.

this looks older than my nan. using ancient standards to get around current day problems is not practical

[LianaThorne]

this looks older than my nan. using ancient standards to get around current day problems is not practical

The point wasn't the look of the photo lol, which btw is from GW2 I believe.

The point is the content and that it's people complaining and being toxic to each other about not playing well when given the opportunity to have open communication compared to the limited one we have now in CC.

I pretty much live in Frontlines when I play this game and chat usually consists of one of two things:

1. Someone spamming a macro for calls and pissing people off
2. The team playing poorly/not listening to calls and pissing people off

I would not be shocked if we have limited CC chat because of that, like the poster you quoted off of said. I can't count how many times I've been in Frontlines and had a chorus of like 4+ people yell "Reported" when people start arguing in there. If true, I can't blame SE for not wanting to wade through that much report spam if it's regularly occurring in pvp lol. I feel for you that you want to use it for good reasons but a lot of people won't and I'm glad Square is focusing on that.

[Eastwall]

The point wasn't the look of the photo lol, which btw is from GW2 I believe.

The point is the content and that it's people complaining and being toxic to each other about not playing well when given the opportunity to have open communication compared to the limited one we have now in CC.

I pretty much live in Frontlines when I play this game and chat usually consists of one of two things:

1. Someone spamming a macro for calls and pissing people off
2. The team playing poorly/not listening to calls and pissing people off

I would not be shocked if we have limited CC chat because of that, like the poster you quoted off of said. I can't count how many times I've been in Frontlines and had a chorus of like 4+ people yell "Reported" when people start arguing in there. If true, I can't blame SE for not wanting to wade through that much report spam if it's regularly occurring in pvp lol. I feel for you that you want to use it for good reasons but a lot of people won't and I'm glad Square is focusing on that.

Yes, it was a ranked match in Guild wars2. The dude was on my team. Although l lost because of him, but it was funny to watch.

[Toutatis]

this looks older than my nan. using ancient standards to get around current day problems is not practical

It’s GW2.

Anyway, some things never change and the garbage people spew in that screenshot remains pretty current. I’ve rarely seen non toxic pvp chat when playing with randoms and when instructions are posted, they are for the most part ignored. No chat is not a big loss.

[Mecia]

I dont understand why a chat couldnt exist with a mute button. They want a competitive mode but coddle everyone out of a proper way to communicate.