Stop the Grind-to-the-Endgame madness!

[Rutelor]

I am mildly curious but.
Why do you people apparently equate 'level cap' with 'endgame'?

You're quite right. We shouldn't.

However, the content that exists right now for capped players has been shorthanded to "endgame" by the community, despite the fact that it isn't. Or at least that it plainly does not feel like it. People called it like that, I imagine, because it was what the found at the end of their class progression. And the name stuck.

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[Payadopa]

The whole experience should be the "good part".

+2

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[Rutelor]

I don't mind quest leveling that much...but it takes a bit away from the social aspect of the game. In XI and L2 when grinding on XP mobs I actually had to function in a group as a whole...not just alone. >< It taught me a lot about the game and how my job worked Even in Aion that has quest grinding, you can also make a PT and go into the "strongholds" and do regular exp pt.

But yea this is Final Fantasy...and FF is known for new, innovative ideas and game breaking/changing ideas. That is the standard that Sakeguchi gave that company when he ran it. That is why all the old FF's got very high reviews (And dont forget Chrono Trigger ) because they were so innovative that they changed the way gaming worked.

They would set new high standards for RPG's. That is what I still except from my favorite game company. Now...having the wow/aion quest grinding is far form innovative and game breaking. I except much more from Yoshi and SE. I have high hopes that 2.0 will be like what FF7 did for video games (Not just RPG's) which is why I am hoping it is not just copy/paste system of Aion and wow

There is no reason why quest leveling and party leveling couldn't coexist. I've often spoken, like Yoshida seems to have done too, of 2 different avenues of progression within one single game: One through which you acquire experience in solo conditions, and another one, perhaps more rewarding in exp, in which you do it within group. Party leveling could be achieved both through collective questing, or through collective grinding (camps). There could be two branches in the quest tree, corresponding to these two avenues. Players could alternate play styles and choose which path to follow in any given day.

[Vingtdeux]

There is no reason why quest leveling and party leveling couldn't coexist. I've often spoken, like Yoshida seems to have done too, of 2 different avenues of progression within one single game: One through which you acquire experience in solo conditions, and another one, perhaps more rewarding in exp, in which you do it within group. Party leveling could be achieved both through collective questing, or through collective grinding (camps). There could be two branches in the quest tree, corresponding to these two avenues. Players could alternate play styles and choose which path to follow in any given day.

It's the purpose of the Armory System with classes and jobs.