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  1. #21
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Adding proper duty support to the trials, without making them brain dead easy, is about the same resource level as making an Ultimate raid. Its very difficult, they did it for the special trial in 6.0 but found it was very costly and the resources are best spent elsewhere. Will they eventually do it? Probably but that will require a far better AI than the hard code methods they used for the special trial.
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    Aminnia Bonneroo
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    The trust should be getting more and more cut back as the game goes forward tbh. Why play an mmo to play solo
    I've never understood this take. Someone choosing to play via trust by themselves has no effect on those who prefer to play with others. Those of us that don't like trust are still queueing for roulettes, duty finder, party finder, et. al. Why be bothered that some people don't want to do that? Personally, I say if someone wants to do that content by themselves, especially when learning the content or their role, more power to them. Let them learn within their comfort zone and be able to experience the entire story. It hurts me, and you, not one bit.
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  3. #23
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    The trust should be getting more and more cut back as the game goes forward tbh. Why play an mmo to play solo
    Solo is an *option* the same as grouping is. They're giving us a choice in how we want to interact with the MSQ. Someone choosing Duty Support for a first run also doesn't mean they want to play solo. They just want that experience for their first time through. I do Duty Support first on anything available now I can listen to the NPC banter, explore around if there are things to read, and just generally enjoy figuring out the mechanics for myself. There are still plenty of reasons to then run those dungeons through roulettes.
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    Probably but that will require a far better AI than the hard code methods they used for the special trial.
    I disagree. The "AI" if you can even call it that is simply "When boss does 'x', do 'y'." There are always very obvious safe zones for every attack, and the AI can be programmed to simply go to that location. These are normal trials we're talking about here.
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    Khloe Stardew
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    I disagree. The "AI" if you can even call it that is simply "When boss does 'x', do 'y'." There are always very obvious safe zones for every attack, and the AI can be programmed to simply go to that location. These are normal trials we're talking about here.
    Cross region travel will be here before you know it and everyone will be on aether XD
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    you really wanna have that? 7 people in your group doing no dmg whenever they do a mechanic? it will prolong every trial, which means you need more concentration, also, when you die you have to start from anew.
    that one trial we have with npcs is even more basic than everything else. its not exactly bad, but if they do that to every trial it will limit them in creating mechanics.
    there already are player who couldnt do that trial with npcs

    also you are from chaos, recently i see more and more chaos people on light doing dungeons and raids.
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  7. #27
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    The situation is probably even worse now because of the continuous DDOS attacks. A lot of people aren't even attepting to queue into anything because they never know if they're gonna get disconnected in the middle of an instance.

    That being said, I have nothing against adding Trusts to trials.
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  8. #28
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    Sugar And'spice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenian View Post
    I've never understood this take. Someone choosing to play via trust by themselves has no effect on those who prefer to play with others. Those of us that don't like trust are still queueing for roulettes, duty finder, party finder, et. al. Why be bothered that some people don't want to do that? Personally, I say if someone wants to do that content by themselves, especially when learning the content or their role, more power to them. Let them learn within their comfort zone and be able to experience the entire story. It hurts me, and you, not one bit.
    Yes they do. They remove themselves from the pool of players quing for duties, which only makes the que longer. They're not incentivised to play t/h because they it's not exactly fun having urianger only heal you and not dps, and alphinaud can't even be trusted with that. Or heal while tancred doesn't pop a single mit and can only handle 3 mobs.
    They don't socialize, nobody can give them feedback if they're spamming Cure 1 and they generally just have a worse experience especially if they die. It's also content that rewards prepulling. Something in later content can get u kicked from dutys. Increasing this system beyond dungeons will be further determental to these players and us too by proxy. 90% of time I have to play war in dng just so I can take care of myself and solo the boss if my healer floors.

    Trust was genuinely a mistake of a system that should have been linked to grand companies and nothing else
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    Last edited by sindriiisgaming; 05-14-2024 at 05:24 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    I had to wait over 70 minutes to do Titania and progress the Il Mheg story quest. So yes I'd rather get instant queue pop to a trial with npc that do not talk over "real" people that don't bring much more than AI when it comes to human interactions and spend more than 1h stuck in the msq.

    However I'd take real player over AI if queue time is less than 10-15 minutes any day.
    Literally just use nn and ask a mentor to pop it for you... its the whole point of the mentor system
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    The trust system is great and acknowledges the fact that the game is a single player story driven action RPG with bonus group activities.
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