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    I may need to rewatch later but i think it has something to do with the left and right blades in the gauge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    I may need to rewatch later but i think it has something to do with the left and right blades in the gauge?
    Do post a timestamp when you find a mention of positionals, I'd like to see it too.
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    There was a point when Yoshi was demonstrating Viper where he didn't use a move and waited until he was at the rear to use it, which indicates it could have been a rear positional. I don't think they have directly stated one way or the other whether positionals are staying, or have been removed though.
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    Few games challenge its players like positionals in FFXIV.
    When one plays SAM, one must know and memorize the ancient art, passed down among generations.
    Step to the side for red stickers. Step behind for blue stickers.
    The massive trillion-IQ exertion must never be underestimated. Few can scarcely contain the burden of knowledge required to memorize these arduous positionals among those two whole skills.
    Praise be to them, for they stand alone in sheer prowess of their ability to remember side for red and rear for blue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Do post a timestamp when you find a mention of positionals, I'd like to see it too.
    There's no mention of positionals, but he does move in ways that indicate positionals exist. So the jury is out. Think I remember back when he was demoing reaper he was doing positionals during enshroud so really, we're going to have to wait until tooltips get released at the end of the media tour/get leaked.
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    Last edited by Arkdra; 05-17-2024 at 04:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RinaB View Post
    Hello everyone, since the launch of EW in particular I've been finding boss design is heavily unfavorable to melee in general and especially for positionals. The Alliance raids are the number one culprit for this and it gets so frustrating I just stop caring. Either get rid of positionals or change boss design to accommodate it better. Positionals feel outdated and pointless as they typically only give a small potency increase and with the huge hit boxes and constant turning of current boss design it's more of a hassle then anything.
    Of course this is made up by the fact that even if you miss positional you still out dps physical range by a wide margin and most everyone else.

    Which it be basically impossible to miss all positionals unless you intentionally tried. I’ve personally ran tests missing them intentionally and it’s well above prng. So I mean like is that fair?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    There's no mention of positionals, but he does move in ways that indicate positionals exist. So the jury is out. Think I remember back when he was demoing reaper he was doing positionals during enshroud so really, we're going to have to wait until tooltips get released at the end of the media tour/get leaked.
    My guess is two skills. If it's less than that I'll be ecstatic, if it's more my day will be ruined and my disappointment immeasurable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    So you can't do it? Good to know.

    I think you are strongly delusional if you actually think job homogenization exists in this game. You can't even explain how it exists. It's a buzz word you like to throw around because it justifies your unhappiness with the game. Maybe you are just jaded and incapable of seeing the game for what it really is? Who knows. You're incapable or unwilling to explain your position so it's irrelevant anyway. Maybe you should just stop posting if you are unwilling to elaborate or state your position.
    Drop your attitude. You are making a fool out of yourself. There's multiple threads about it at this point due to the things they're taking away from certain jobs, or in the case of SCH just outright turning them into angels lmao.

    Stop watching Xenos. Are you him? I'm sorry for what I said about you, but no one has any business using you as a resource for anything except playing with cheaters in Ultimates.

    Or if you are a viewer, stick to screaming about bald people in chat.

    And dont forget to keep hounding people about Kaiten being a "weeb move" as well (definitely nothing Xenosys would say).

    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if people read their own posts. Okay, sometimes I don't read my own posts, so fair enough, but wow, this one was silly
    This is typical forum cringe. I have been extremely patient and courteous to this person for how many pages in the moment I push back against them you are crying. You will find zero sympathy here. Take that somewhere else.

    And especially when they're in other threads harassing people for no reason telling them they are weebs for wanting Kaiten back. I understand you're probably angry that I actually knew what I was talking about and proved it quite conclusively, but you're overstepping here.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 05-17-2024 at 10:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Drop your attitude. You are making a fool out of yourself. There's multiple threads about it at this point due to the things they're taking away from certain jobs, or in the case of SCH just outright turning them into angels lmao.

    Stop watching Xenos. Are you him? I'm sorry for what I said about you, but no one has any business using you as a resource for anything except playing with cheaters in Ultimates.

    Or if you are a viewer, stick to screaming about bald people in chat.
    Sometimes I wonder if people read their own posts. Okay, sometimes I don't read my own posts, so fair enough, but wow, this one was silly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Drop your attitude. You are making a fool out of yourself. There's multiple threads about it at this point due to the things they're taking away from certain jobs, or in the case of SCH just outright turning them into angels lmao.

    Stop watching Xenos. Are you him? I'm sorry for what I said about you, but no one has any business using you as a resource for anything except playing with cheaters in Ultimates.

    Or if you are a viewer, stick to screaming about bald people in chat.

    And dont forget to keep hounding people about Kaiten being a "weeb move" as well (definitely nothing Xenosys would say).



    This is typical forum cringe. I have been extremely patient and courteous to this person for how many pages in the moment I push back against them you are crying. You will find zero sympathy here. Take that somewhere else.
    Yet you still can't elaborate or make a logical statement about the buzz word claims you've been pushing. So very patient. So very courteous.

    You linked a wikipedia article that only served to illustrate that all positionals are is a potency increase across the board. There is nothing else to them. You're at flank, or you're at rear for positional potency increase. Every job has them, and you talk about homogenization being caused if certain melee dps roles have them removed? What? You say that making monk a job where positionals are absolutely mandatory for the rotation to work and removing them from the other jobs would result in homogenization?

    Somehow I think you're just a xeno hater who is unhappy with the game and looking for someone to blame.
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