Positionals

[Lyth]

In Final Fantasy I, Black Mage spells have no cast time. They deserve better than to have cast times tacked on to all their spells, just because the devs couldn't think of any other way to raise the skill ceiling for magical ranged.

The core reason why you'll advocate for this is because the follow-up becomes: if melee dps no longer have positionals, shouldn't casters do more damage? Shouldn't we move to a double caster comp as default?

[rawker]

In Final Fantasy I, Black Mage spells have no cast time.

Using the same argument, FF VIII had cast times when summoning Guardian Forces.. Look at FFXIV SMNs.

[Tint]

Using the same argument, FF VIII had cast times when summoning Guardian Forces.. Look at FFXIV SMNs.

SMN is the best argument against positionals.

When we can have a mage without casts then we sure can have a melee without positionals.

NIN originally was released without them. The Mudra system was supposed to be "their" thing. Positionals only got added in HW.

[Lyth]

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SMN still does have some casts, though, much the same as some melee dps have fewer positionals while others have more. Those comparisons on cast times and positionals then get used for players to argue in favor of their preferred job doing more damage than everyone else.

I think it's a mistake to design a role around people who hate playing it.

[rawker]

SMN is the best argument against positionals.

So what are BRD, DNC, MCH to you? All mages should have cast times in their spell casting. Should a ranged DPS have no cast times then it is better off as a Ranged Physical DPS.

[Lucyfurr1988]

SMN is the best argument against positionals.

When we can have a mage without casts then we sure can have a melee without positionals.

NIN originally was released without them. The Mudra system was supposed to be "their" thing. Positionals only got added in HW.

each melee other than monk has only 2-3 positionals iirc. smn has 3 casts per minute....

[SomeGuy22]

each melee other than monk has only 2-3 positionals iirc. smn has 3 casts per minute....

Hell, even MNK post rework has only two. The positional-heavy melee has less positionals than fuckin DRG now...

[Lucyfurr1988]

Hell, even MNK post rework has only two. The positional-heavy melee has less positionals than fuckin DRG now...

yes youre right. i dont really play mnk much and havent touched it at all since rework so was unaware of how many it had. or how few i should say...