you know what grinds my gears?

[Destain]

My ls is wonderful and pretty much accepts anyone as long as they ask. Sometimes even if they don't

EDIT: crippled christ almighty after actually reading some of the posts on here I feel very sick to my stomache ><. drops by seniority? experianced onry? wtf kind of elitism is that bull. I wouldn't want to play with people like that even if it was the only way to progress. Straight up douche bull is what it is :/

Yeah, the people who want their drops over the newb that's never done the runs before and is tagging along learning, they are the douches. The people that have trained multiple groups of people and geared them out only to have them stop running once they get what they want, they are the douches.

Please read the previous with heavy sarcasm.

IMO the douche is the new guy that demands same lot rights when they are just starting. The douche is the guy that cries elitist when they aren't allowed to lot on that less than 1% drop, even though they have been told everything else is fair game.

That's not elitism, u r idiot. That is people that value their fellow LS members time and dedication and feel they should be rewarded accordingly.

[Amyas]

Yeah, the people who want their drops over the newb that's never done the runs before and is tagging along learning, they are the douches. The people that have trained multiple groups of people and geared them out only to have them stop running once they get what they want, they are the douches.

Please read the previous with heavy sarcasm.

IMO the douche is the new guy that demands same lot rights when they are just starting. The douche is the guy that cries elitist when they aren't allowed to lot on that less than 1% drop, even though they have been told everything else is fair game.

That's not elitism, u r idiot. That is people that value their fellow LS members time and dedication and feel they should be rewarded accordingly.

'u r idiot' Well i guess that speaks for itself right there. If I get a drop and there is someone else with the class to use it that I haven't leveled, of course i'm going to cede it to them. But if some douche leader says "thats mine u r noob" I would instant drop pt, ls, blacklist :/ I can't believe I actually read this on here. My experience with my ls is great, if it drops in your loot list its yours, the rng chose you, and no amount of some asshats douchery can change that. (Why are you trying to ruin my idea of how awesome the ff14 community is? I generally haven't seen much of this stupidity in game... guess it [I]is[I] a forum but still... its the forum for 14 :/)

[Destain]

'u r idiot' Well i guess that speaks for itself right there. If I get a drop and there is someone else with the class to use it that I haven't leveled, of course i'm going to cede it to them. But if some douche leader says "thats mine u r noob" I would instant drop pt, ls, blacklist :/ I can't believe I actually read this on here. My experience with my ls is great, if it drops in your loot list its yours, the rng chose you, and no amount of some asshats douchery can change that. (Why are you trying to ruin my idea of how awesome the ff14 community is? I generally haven't seen much of this stupidity in game... guess it [I]is[I] a forum but still... its the forum for 14 :/)

I love it. 7 likes to your 0. The people have spoken.

<==== winner!

Look, if you set the terms in advance that RNG is king prior to joining fine. I'm not knocking that. No one is making you join a group that has different drop/lot rules. People saying that LSes that reward dedication/skill/loyalty is douchey or elitist "r idiot". The players joining the LS on those terms are fine w/ it. Some LS's set goals, and RNG is not the most efficient way to accomplish that. You act like other forms of drop allotment are below you or unfair. As the votes clearly indicate, most people find it to be a reasonable form of item allotment.

P.S. - U. R.

Checked your profile. It helps to explain why you can't see the other side o' the coin.

[XxOstiaxX]

Yeah, the people who want their drops over the newb that's never done the runs before and is tagging along learning, they are the douches. The people that have trained multiple groups of people and geared them out only to have them stop running once they get what they want, they are the douches.

Please read the previous with heavy sarcasm.

IMO the douche is the new guy that demands same lot rights when they are just starting. The douche is the guy that cries elitist when they aren't allowed to lot on that less than 1% drop, even though they have been told everything else is fair game.

That's not elitism, u r idiot. That is people that value their fellow LS members time and dedication and feel they should be rewarded accordingly.

You are a Douch! And your entire post reeks of Elitism, just look at how you say "An item that has 1% chance" seriously man is a pixel, and at the end of the day in this game is not an upgrade, for you dont need any 1% drop gear to beat any boss or monster in this game, you can rape them all with craftables, this aint WoW or anything like that, at the end of the day, he helped as much as everybody else on getting the drop, then you ditch him in a curb and act like "Sorry scrub elites only, but you can have this fire cyrstals noob"

[Destain]

You are a Douch! And your entire post reeks of Elitism, just look at how you say "An item that has 1% chance" seriously man is a pixel, and at the end of the day in this game is not an upgrade, for you dont need any 1% drop gear to beat any boss or monster in this game, you can rape them all with craftables, this aint WoW or anything like that, at the end of the day, he helped as much as everybody else on getting the drop, then you ditch him in a curb and act like "Sorry scrub elites only, but you can have this fire cyrstals noob"

Your awfully presumptuous, you act like the newb is a victim. They have every chance to earn their place in an optional to join LS. What happens more often than not is people join linkshells to get what they want and then ditch. So if linkshells want to take measures to protect themselves who the f are you to judge? No one, a noob with an obvious chip on your shoulder. And yeah, game content can be beaten without these super rare "pixels". Not that you would know from experience. That doesn't mean in the structure of an LS that some shitty playing newb that is still learning the endgame/content of the game should deserve an equal shot at these trophies people have worked hundreds of hours towards obtaining. Get your head out of your ass. LS leaders have to do what the can to reward the most deserving members.

Personally I have everyone pick an item from each dungeon, if it drops and no one else picked it it goes direct to them. If someone else picked it the two players random. I block bodies, they go to the people that will use them most in LS events. That's not elitism. That's rationality above political correctness. You want a trophie for showing up! That is douchtastic.

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[Amyas]

You are a Douch! And your entire post reeks of Elitism, just look at how you say "An item that has 1% chance" seriously man is a pixel, and at the end of the day in this game is not an upgrade, for you dont need any 1% drop gear to beat any boss or monster in this game, you can rape them all with craftables, this aint WoW or anything like that, at the end of the day, he helped as much as everybody else on getting the drop, then you ditch him in a curb and act like "Sorry scrub elites only, but you can have this fire cyrstals noob"

yeah I went ahead and put him on my ignore list :/ Funny thing is i was starting to actually think about this stuff after discussing it with my ls friends yesterday (I was kinda pissed after being called 'u r idiot' for disagreeing with 'seniority drop' ), like how people get screwed by rng for a long time, blah, and about DKP and possibly implementing that once stuff gets off the ground for everybody. But after reading how he touts his '7 likes' (lol) and how he read my profile history, i now know he's just one of those too hardcore guys thats only interested in how he plays with his buddies or w/e and i'm ok with that. To the future!

[Gugnir]

You dont really even need a linkshell to tackle the content in xiv, just a friends list of reasonbly skilled players. End game linkshells should be like your home away from home in xiv. Sure there are cliques in it, and it will always suck looking in from the outside but thats only because you havent earned a right to be in it. Loyalty is something that shouldnt be given either so freely. People move servers for linkshells, because theyre worth doing so for.

[Chardrizard]

Because i wanted to know who i will be wasting my time with, whether you will ruin my game mood or not, whether you acts like a douchebag, whether you play like a retard or not, whether you have issues with Justin Bieber, and all sort of stuff.

I apologize that i dont like to invite random strangers into my house, you could kill my puppy for all i know, and listen to me NOBODY FCKS WITH MY PUPPY.

[Eekiki]

Because i wanted to know who i will be wasting my time with, whether you will ruin my game mood or not, whether you acts like a douchebag, whether you play like a retard or not, whether you have issues with Justin Bieber, and all sort of stuff.

I apologize that i dont like to invite random strangers into my house, you could kill my puppy for all i know, and listen to me NOBODY FCKS WITH MY PUPPY.

What's your puppy's name?