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  1. #1
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    Odd stutter

    I got a new laptop (and a 2nd new laptop as I thought there was a hardware issue) and I'm getting a weird, random "stutter" while playing XIV. The game will just pause for a split second, and then resume. Sometimes it's just video, other times it's video and audio.

    I've tried windowed mode, borderless, and full screen, all have the same issue. Drivers are up to date.

    The laptop has a core ultra 9 processor and RTX 4080, it's not over heating.

    I've used the Nvidia control panel to limit frame rates and make adjustments to no avail. Anyone have any suggestions I can try? I'm thinking it may just be a driver issue with NVidia, but I've tried the prior 3 with no changes.

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    Hi there,

    try closing all background and a minimal boot:
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/...a-a97a1807f3dd

    Do you have power supply connected to the laptop? most of the gaming laptops throttle when not connected to a power source.
    Do you have FFXIV selected to run on the NVIDIA GPU?

    Please attach the output of the FFXIV System Information Tool.
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    Oddly enough, it doesn't stutter when on battery, only when powered. I received a second one with the exact same issue with XIV. Yes, the NVIDIA GPU is running the game.
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    Good morning! Thank you for posting in the Final Fantasy XIV Technical Support Forums.

    We apologize for any inconvenience experienced when trying to play Final Fantasy XIV. For us to better assist you, please respond with the following information:

    What Platform are you using? (Steam/Windows/Mac/PS4 etc.)
    At what point does the issue occur?
    How often does the issue occur?

    Could you provide the exact error message received?
    Are you running any additional programs alongside Final Fantasy XIV?
    Does the issue occur with one character or multiple characters?
    Were any update or changes made to the PC around the time of the issue?

    All steps taken to resolve the issue:

    Could you provide a system report? Simply go to the 'Config' option on the Final Fantasy XIV launcher and to the right of 'System Information' click on 'Display.

    Thank you once again for visiting the Final Fantasy XIV Technical Support Forums!
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    Always
    Constantly

    No error, just a stuttering.
    No
    All characters
    No, and it happens on multiple PCs

    I believe this is the evolution of the ongoing gamepad issue when using a PC that FFXIV has. First it was continued input. Then it was unresponsive controller, and now it game stutter. I've been posting about these issues for 10 years, and SE doesn't seem to want to fix it. I've literally had likely 5 or 6 computers over these years and can replicate the exact same issue on friend's computers. When any PC scans for new devices or creates a virtual disk, like clockwork, FFXIV stutters (now stutters, previously it was continued input or non responsive controller).

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    Good morning! Thank you for posting in the Final Fantasy XIV Technical Support Forums.

    Please try the following:
    - Update and reinstall the drivers for your graphics card and sound drivers (if applicable). It appears that your GPU [NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Laptop GPU] driver was last updated on [7/9/2024], please note at this time a newer version should be available.
    - As previously mentioned, it appears that your system may have two GPUs. Please double check to make sure that it is defaulting to the correct and desired one.

    - Please try adjusting/lowering the resolution.
    - Please try running the game as an administrator.
    - Perform a clean boot by opening the task manager and select the 'Start up' Tab. Disable everything.
    - Please be sure that Final Fantasy XIV is installed to the C: Drive. (If Steam version, make sure both the game and Steam are installed on same drive)
    - Please be sure to disable or remove any overlays (Discord, Steam, NVIDIA etc.) as they may interfere with startup. It appears that you may have [#officers | Vibe Free Company and Linkshell - Discord] open in the background, for the troubleshooting process please try disabling these type of programs.

    - Make sure that the Windows OS is fully updated.
    - Verify installation files (Steam)
    - Reinstall game (If steam version, try uninstalling and reinstalling both the game and Steam)

    Thank you once again for visiting the Final Fantasy XIV Technical Support Forums!
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    None of the above has any affect on the issue. It's been happening for 10 years and I always get that exact same reply without any type of real resolution. I've also tried installing on C and other drives, it doesn't help.
    It's replicate-able even with a fresh installation of Windows with absolutely nothing running in the background, and ONLY happens when a controller is plugged in.. for over 10 years.
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    I'd love another reply Votraftur.. this issue is all over the steam forums as well as Reddit. XIV isn't stable since 7.0 launch. This stutter makes it difficult to play.
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    Good morning! Thank you for posting in the Final Fantasy XIV Technical Support Forums.

    Does your laptop have onboard graphics along with a dedicated graphics card? If so, this may be causing a confliction with the display output when the game tries to run. Please try disabling the "Onboard VGA/graphics" via Windows under "Device Manager" and select the "Display Adapter" option. From there, locate if there is an onboard graphics option and disable it.

    You can also do this via your motherboard's BIOS.

    Additionally, we would recommend double checking to make sure PC is not over heating and remove any overclocks on GPU/CPU.

    Thank you once again for visiting the Final Fantasy XIV Technical Support Forums!
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    I tried that and same issue occurs. Please note that this happens on 3 different laptops of mine as well as my desktop. None are over heating and in fact one is liquid cooled and this only started with the launch of 7.0. Several of my friends are complaining of the same issue, as are people all over the steam message boards. I have a small IT company so I have the ability to test it on multiple computers. The ones I've tested it on and can reproduce the exact issue on are the following:

    4090 (onboard and dedicated gpus)
    4080 (3 of them actually, onboard and dedicated gpus)
    3070ti (on board and dedicated GPUs)
    3070 (desktop with only a 3070)
    3060 (desktop with only a 3060)
    2080 Super (onboard and dedicated GPUs)

    The all do it with rolled back video drives and fresh installations of Windows with nothing running but XIV. Windows 10 and Windows 11, Pro and Home versions.
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