Friend Removal should be bothways

[Rueby]

Unfortunately they can also do that without having you on their FL through the player search ingame function. Works essentially the same, except it won't show any result if you're in an instance (which is not the problem here). Now that I think of it, I think the blacklist should also block appearing through the search function on the side of the blocked player...

I heard in DT we're getting the option to opt out of player search along with Lodestone privacy? Unless I'm somehow mistaken/misinformed.

[Valence]

I heard in DT we're getting the option to opt out of player search along with Lodestone privacy? Unless I'm somehow mistaken/misinformed.

I am not sure either, there is a lot of underlying points to the issue that were probably not all covered in the liveletter. They definitely talked about lodestone privacy though.

[Vrankyl]

It would be one thing if all that adding a person to a FL did was let them see you online. People would likely be more strict with who they put on there, but it isn't. It's also the only way to send mail to FC mates because for some ungodly reason you can't do that unless they are on your FL unlike every other MMO out there where your FC/Guild mates are all options for mail sending (then again so are your alts and we can't even do that either. We need to turn our friends and FC mates into gil mules). Because of that, a lot of people, especially those in officer positions of FCs, HAVE to friend list people. As a result there should be no reason that we are left on a FL if we remove them from ours.

[Merrigan]

I had too many people on him and the thought of being permanently on people's FL before I even knew how this system works is just hmmm weird

I know what you mean. The character I'm writing with hasn't been online for a very long time. Well, I prefer my new one now, but the reason was the same: too many interactions, inability to disappear completely, which over time causes real discomfort, almost a sense of dispossession of the character. Strange as it may sound.

Anyway: yes, please. Beyond the usual problems of IG stalking, when you withdraw from an address book it would be good if it was on both sides, it seems obvious.

[Eastwall]

I heard it is a cultural issue. In Japan, it is a big deal to get removed from someone's friend list. Here is the problem... If this game only launch in Japan, that's fine, but it has global version. It is quite shortsighted and inflexible to do things this way. Just like the msw locking content behind it.

[Zhalar]

100000000000000000000000% friend removal needs to work both ways. People completely use the friend list to stalk other people. It's happened to me by people I have cut off contact with (and no, not randos I've added to my friend list in passing; someone who I RP'd with for over a year and they finally showed their true colors as an abusive and toxic person). This same person has continued to stalk and harass one of my friends/FC members even.

What also needs to be added is the ability to blacklist people without contact. See someone you want to blacklist? Right click on their name and blacklist or look them up on player search and blacklist. I should NOT have to wait for some sort of interaction with someone to be able to blacklist them.

[Vyrerus]

Sounds like GCBTW is at it again, but even so, I don't think the feature needs to go both ways.

So you, personally, feel like <Player X> is no longer friend material or interesting or whatever. You unfriend them. Did you tell them even? What was your value to them? Are you unfriending just because you're in a, "fuck it all" sort of mood?

They might consider you their best or one of their greatest friends.

This just kind of reeks of undervaluing the meaning of the word friend, and that people are being added to your list and taken off of it, on day to day whims.

Like how many people on your lists are really friends if you feel this way? What's your criteria for adding someone in the first place?

Though I suppose, at this point, it doesn't matter at all. In Dawntrail you'll be able to remove them, then blacklist them, and they won't even appear as part of your game world anymore. Won't matter then, if you're still on their list.

[Merrigan]

Sounds like GCBTW is at it again, but even so, I don't think the feature needs to go both ways.

So you, personally, feel like <Player X> is no longer friend material or interesting or whatever. You unfriend them. Did you tell them even? What was your value to them? Are you unfriending just because you're in a, "fuck it all" sort of mood?

They might consider you their best or one of their greatest friends.

This just kind of reeks of undervaluing the meaning of the word friend, and that people are being added to your list and taken off of it, on day to day whims.

Like how many people on your lists are really friends if you feel this way? What's your criteria for adding someone in the first place?

Though I suppose, at this point, it doesn't matter at all. In Dawntrail you'll be able to remove them, then blacklist them, and they won't even appear as part of your game world anymore. Won't matter then, if you're still on their list.

To keep a track of their username. You message would be true if we had another list called "people I met but are not friend yet". We don't. So for now, it's simply like facebook : a list of people you know. But not a list of friends.

[Bonoki]

Sounds like GCBTW is at it again, but even so, I don't think the feature needs to go both ways.

So you, personally, feel like <Player X> is no longer friend material or interesting or whatever. You unfriend them. Did you tell them even? What was your value to them? Are you unfriending just because you're in a, "fuck it all" sort of mood?

They might consider you their best or one of their greatest friends.

This just kind of reeks of undervaluing the meaning of the word friend, and that people are being added to your list and taken off of it, on day to day whims.

Like how many people on your lists are really friends if you feel this way? What's your criteria for adding someone in the first place?

Though I suppose, at this point, it doesn't matter at all. In Dawntrail you'll be able to remove them, then blacklist them, and they won't even appear as part of your game world anymore. Won't matter then, if you're still on their list.

If someone decides to remove themselves from my friends list, I view it as their way of ending our connection without any need for confrontation. I appreciate the quiet closure rather than persisting in upholding a relationship that has become insincere.

[Reinha]

If someone decides to remove themselves from my friends list, I view it as their way of ending our connection without any need for confrontation. I appreciate the quiet closure rather than persisting in upholding a relationship that has become insincere.

Yeah, exactly! And because I don't want to have this kind of one sided relationship where the other person has already moved on, I want to have a way to clear out every friend of mine that does not consider me to be theirs. I have no desire to blacklist anyone, but I don't want their name to be highlighted in a crowd as an invitation to talk to them if they don't want to associate with me anymore. It's weird and cringe for people to want to occupy someone's friend list when they've already removed that person from their own list. Why do they seek to maintain the facade?