Reintroduce Maat in 2.0

**stanleyyoung** · 07-19-2012 11:17 AM

maybe instead of just having lvl cap increases by just fighting nm's, gettin items or killing maat,etc we could have a system that teaches/trains ppl how to play/use the class/job as designed or intended. what im mean by this is a type of ribbon or medal system where you get them by perfomring certain task/duties either soloing/partying, etc.

example: you are a pld at lvl50 and want to get 55 cap. you have to get certain kinda ribbon/medal along with a certain amount.
one ribbon/medal - you have to hold hate on 1 mob with a constant flashing bar for 30secs while in a party with other ppl attack it.
second ribbon/medal- you have to keep one pt member covered and keep thier hp above red for 30secs.
third ribbion/medal-you must interupt an enemy attack thats targeting your ally with shield bash skill.
fourth ribbon/medal- you must perform two successful combos on one mob in 30 seconds.

Another example you are a lvl50 whm:
one ribbon- you must keep 3 party members above yellow hp at all times for 45sec.
second ribbon- you must keep atleast 2 party members with atleast 1 constant buff for 10minutes.
third ribbon- you must must keep all party members(full) above red hp for 1minute.

What im trying to point out here is that we need a way to teach & train ppl how to play the class/job correctly. i know this might seem a bit wierd but the last thing we need in 2.0 are ppl that go around playing classes/jobs as they feel, or see fit, or how they think to class/job should be played. im not saying we should restrict ppl from using classes/jobs (or say this is the obsolute only way to play the class/job) but i along with many other are tired of players that have no clue how to play or refuse to use the class/job as it intended or designed by SE. i know right now the class/job system isnt fixed and all that BS but what a better way to get newcomers along with vets to play xiv when thier is a system that in a way will teach and train you how to play. i know it kinda seem stupid or even abstract but i just wanna get the idea across to you guys and hopefully you guys can see what im gettin at. also you can use your imagaination/creativity and think of some ideas how this should be.

SE can come up with some ribbons/medals that requrie you to either solo or party to get them (heck maybe you have to get them while doing some quest or dungeons,etc). this is just an idea so no need to flip out or rage!

**jwang** · 07-19-2012 10:26 AM

I love the concept of limit breaks. Only for XIV, instead of one badass that knows every job, we would have the guild leaders be the person you have to beat in order to break your limit.

**Rannie** · 07-19-2012 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by jwang

I love the concept of limit breaks. Only for XIV, instead of one badass that knows every job, we would have the guild leaders be the person you have to beat in order to break your limit.

that doesn't sound too bad. though right now i'm a bit drunk but i think still that wouldn't be too bad of an idea even sober...question though is how would that be implemented for those who only do doh or dol? That's another thing everyone seems to be forgetting about. The DOH and DOL are different classes in on themselves so they go in and fight a "Maat" type character to raise their level cap and why should they have to level a dow or dom just so their levels can increase?

**Tricksy** · 07-19-2012 10:31 AM

I disagree Maat was old and his story wasnt the greatest in my opinion.

Being someone who likes aesthetically appealing characters and fantastic(fantasy based) stories, I would love to see something similar to the Maat character progression impediments through a different character or entity. Say a powerful and moral, talking dragon on the side of "good" or some other weird creature with an interesting story.

I have no problem with borrowing concepts from FF11 at all. But like the use of the exact same races and shamefully similar cities, im let down by some lack of new creatures/environments and lore. Some of the lore and such is great, but anything that i dislike is probably just a result of the rushed release. I really would love to see 2.0 do well

**VytasBismarck** · 07-19-2012 11:19 AM

Well i would rather have unique challenging solo battle for every class/job than be forced to fight same old guy on every class like it was in XI. Maat is not the best SE can come up with guys, don't force the devs to repeat the same shit over and over - give them freedom to come up with better ideas instead!

**Rannie** · 07-19-2012 11:24 AM

that's still not going to work though because everyone is still only thinking of dow and dom. It means shit (pardon my language) for the people who don't play those classes . Basically you want to force everyone to play a dow or dom to be able to gain levels in that sort of fashion. What we would really need if they implement some type of system like that then it would have to be across the board not just for Dow and Dom because not everyone wants to level a fighting or mage class. Some people just want to play as crafters. (which is nothing wrong with that) but how would they be able do that if some type of fight was involved.(stone flick really sucks btw.) A happy medium would need to be reach to satisfy everyone who play differently. (btw i play all types of classes so i feel that everyone should have some some of equality in the play of the game. wow being drunk makes me think better and clearer just my typing sucks. Had to back space a lot to type this out ^_^) Jic I'm not saying any of this to start an argument i just want people to think about this and give ideas on how they can add this for other classes besides dow and and dom. And it doesn't have to include maat perse.

my point being in ffxi crafting wasn't considered anything really in the game just something you could do on the side and hit up to lvl 60 with all bt 1 craft which you could take all the way up. so far it seems like this game isn't segregating crafting from fighting classes and giving them their chance to shine in the game and make their own glory. I think someone mention to me or on here about hamlets.... think more towards me on some other chat program but in hamlets you have your crafters and you have your fighting classes all working towards the same goal and i believe se is trying to do this as well.

**Lycieus** · 07-19-2012 11:32 AM

I don't understand the masochistic/sadistic mindset that seems to have spawned this thread. Not sure if you want to make things hard on yourself or others, but putting in roadblocks to make people 'ragequit' hardly seems a wise choice for gaining and retaining subscribers in a struggling mmo.

**Rannie** · 07-19-2012 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Lycieus

I don't understand the masochistic/sadistic mindset that seems to have spawned this thread. Not sure if you want to make things hard on yourself or others, but putting in roadblocks to make people 'ragequit' hardly seems a wise choice for gaining and retaining subscribers in a struggling mmo.

honestly i think the masochistic/sadist mindset comes from the fact that some people want to have an a feeling of achievement behind the levels they've reached and shows them that they don't just suck at playing whatever class/job they've chosen to be their main want. it's human nature to (how can i put this) want to know that when they do something and go off and fight something (in the case of maat) that they are doing it the way they are supposed to and playing that job/class the way they are supposed to. Humans are egotistical in that matter. Take for example facebook, or even on here when ever some one clicks (wow typed in licks at first) like on your said post it gives you an emotional high that someone out there has the same opinion as you. We're all guilty of it even me. I get an emotional satifaction every time someone clicks the like button for my posts. I think i'm starting to contradict myself on some points but I was just answering your post. Not to make statements against mine in away but to give an example on how some people may think about it.

**Hyrist** · 07-19-2012 12:10 PM

Cid is an Icon.

Moogles is an Icon, are are the summons.

Biggs and Wedge are even Icons.

Maat is not. Maat is a memorable character. Like Cloud, and Shantotto, and Sephiroth, and Squall, and Terra. Leave the memorable characters in the memorable characters category please, or else we'll justify some really baaaad ideas.

**Rokien** · 07-19-2012 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Hyrist

Cid is an Icon.

Moogles is an Icon, are are the summons.

Biggs and Wedge are even Icons.

Maat is not. Maat is a memorable character. Like Cloud, and Shantotto, and Sephiroth, and Squall, and Terra. Leave the memorable characters in the memorable characters category please, or else we'll justify some really baaaad ideas.

Well, you could say the same thing with the crystal tower, golden saucer, and whatever else they wanna add~ Shouldn't those stay in their own games? Those are not icons those memorable areas.

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