Idea: Merge PLD Sword and Shield into a Single Item

[Scruit_Bigtime]

if they merged them into a single item, it would be a main hand item, and then would not be able to be applied as an off hand glamour. (i don't think the system as it stands is able to handle an item being equipable in more than one place. *note some chest pieces can also cover the head and prevent a head item being equipped, but this item despite taking two slots can still only be equipped on the chest)

also, if merged the off hand slot would be empty and not be able to receive a glamour, (notice how if you don't have a headgear item equipped and apply a glamour you don't get the empty head slot glamoured)

[dwodmots]

OP, please never have an idea again.

[Yuella]

Some people like to glam "one handed sword with no shield" by glamming the emperor's new shield

[Raikai]

Lmao I don't think people are capable to read the actual post and just reply based on the thread title.

[Sjol]

Some people like to glam "one handed sword with no shield" by glamming the emperor's new shield

Nothing in the proposal would prevent that

[Sjol]

Lmao I don\\'t think people are capable to read the actual post and just reply based on the thread title.

You may be right.

[Sjol]

As someone who always glamours with the Emperor's New Shield... This would be a negative change.

Nothing in the proposal would prevent this.

[GTK0HLK]

I think there's a difference between adding a handful of one-offs (i.e., less than a half dozen exceptions, I think) and committing to an even greater and greater effort for back-filling weapons since it's only a problem that will get worse as time goes on (i.e., 2 additional weapons per expansion per weapon-giving thing)

It wouldn't be a Handful, they know as consumers we will want everything.

So many have asked for Ult Weapons for other classes, for unlocked Armors, for Hempen Small Clothes, For racial variants to newer races.

Overall, it doesn't change what folk have said.

It would create a new set of work they need to do. (While of course it would be best if they did so from the start, you only need to see the GenLocked Gear that they eventually unlock later on as an example.)

Maybe in the distant future, but that would require not only the back end, but how the Visuals are.

And clearly they have better things in plan.
(This just wouldn't surface in the majority of the players wants. Like Unlocking Armors, or Hempen Sets, or the Entire Glamour System.)
[Some of you all may want this, but most players don't even hear of these asks. They are likely to understand other asks as more worthwhile, and this one will be pushed down.]

<Though personally, I view this as the same as the Catgirl "Clan" Erasure Agenda. No>

[AmiableApkallu]

I would love to see the PLD sword and shield sets moved into a single item AND THEN:

Allow left and right weapons/shields to be individually glamoured. This could easily apply to NIN and maybe RDM, AST, and any other job that has two pieces to their kit that can be non-symmetrical. I could see this apply to paint brush and palette even.

I don't see why one has to be done before the other.

SE could develop whatever tech/code/data is necessary to glamour the two parts of a NIN, RDM, AST, MCH, etc. weapon as it's own feature, without having to deal with, say, ARR swords and shields (remember that some shields can be used by CNJ/THM/WHM/BLM).

In that scenario, PLD would still be able to glamour their sword and shield separately, just like they can do today.

[Sjol]

I don't see why one has to be done before the other.

SE could develop whatever tech/code/data is necessary to glamour the two parts of a NIN, RDM, AST, MCH, etc. weapon as it's own feature, without having to deal with, say, ARR swords and shields (remember that some shields can be used by CNJ/THM/WHM/BLM).

In that scenario, PLD would still be able to glamour their sword and shield separately, just like they can do today.

I guess I also have this vision where SE cleans up a lot of the little one-offs and dead systems that ARR and HW had to make them consistent with the rest of the game. While I would have probably rather had a different systems per expansion that's not what they did, and I choose to accept that on their terms.

And it's not like it was bad that they tried stuff out and moved stuff over from 1.0. Trying stuff out is good, but we're also at the point where we're 10 years in and some clean-up may be warranted and helpful towards expanding what's capable. Removing code and systems is important for making space for new stuff (and I'm talking as a software engineer here). You can't grow complexity infinitely.