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    I am normally pretty chillaxed about these things, but it has gotten out of hand. It's now been days, if not a full week!? and still dc several times daily from this DDOS. I have personally tried to:

    - party dc 5 times at last boss in a MSQ dungeon that I had been in queue for 30+ min, we ended up loosing the instance
    - dc during spectral current in ocean fishing
    - dc after waiting for hours for a correct weather and time for a special fish for a quest
    - multiple dc's while doing hunt trains

    It is now starting to really PEEEE me off, there must be something that SE can do.
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    Cant somehow someone do something about that ddos attack ?
    Like really now its been a week
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    It's been already a week and we're still getting daily ddos attacks. The game is barely playable yet our sub days are still counting. It feels straight up shitty, it's not square enix's fault they're getting attacked but this whole situation is getting ridiculous. Surely you'd think they'd invest in some measures to fight against it? Not to mention that we should be compensated with game time. I can't do anything in the game without disconnecting.

    I log in the morning - disconnect
    I log in the afternoon - disconnect
    I log in the evening - disconnect

    Seriously, we can't even progress in our static's savage raiding because this is happening DAILY. It's impossible to do anything in the game most of the time, can't even complete a single unsync dungeon for my HW relic without getting disconnected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VayneArior View Post
    Surely you'd think they'd invest in some measures to fight against it?
    What makes you think they haven't? Means of exploiting vulnerabilities in security evolve in the same way that security mitigations do. Square could have the best security money could buy, and there'd still be someone out there trying to figure out how to break through just for the simple joy of doing it. That's even assuming a direct confrontation between SE and their hacker, not even accounting for 3rd party infrastructure which SE has no control over. I'm here with a Cybersecurity degree to tell you that's simple the nature of the beast that is internet security. They can only "resolve" the attack in a more permanent fashion once they figure out exactly how the attack is occurring, in the same way doctors can only cure a disease once they figure out exactly how it's making you sick.

    People should be a little more reasonable about this. It's not Square's fault, yet there are a few too many people in this thread trying to blame them as if they aren't doing enough. I understand it's inconvenient and frustrating as a player but trust me, y'all, this is something that's affecting their bottom line. They are absolutely doing something about it as quickly as they can.
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    Last edited by littlehobbit13; 05-14-2024 at 05:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlehobbit13 View Post
    What makes you think they haven't? Means of exploiting vulnerabilities in security evolve in the same way that security mitigations do. Square could have the best security money could buy, and there'd still be someone out there trying to figure out how to break through just for the simple joy of doing it. That's even assuming a direct confrontation between SE and their hacker, not even accounting for 3rd party infrastructure which SE has no control over. I'm here with a Cybersecurity degree to tell you that's simple the nature of the beast that is internet security. They can only "resolve" the attack in a more permanent fashion once they figure out exactly how the attack is occurring, in the same way doctors can only cure a disease once they figure out exactly how it's making you sick.

    People should be a little more reasonable about this. It's not Square's fault, yet there are a few too many people in this thread trying to blame them as if they aren't doing enough. I understand it's inconvenient and frustrating as a player but trust me, y'all, this is something that's affecting their bottom line. They are absolutely doing something about it as quickly as they can.
    Almost one week of dc here and there isn’t really enough for me to be concerned.. if this was happening before expansion maybe but at the moment I’m sort of glad it’s happening but it will then make future attacks less effective if they can find and plug what vulnerabilities are causing this. Like you said doesn’t matter how good your security is… people will get through if they try hard enough… also when you have companies like Amazon and google who have far greater spending and server infrastructure crumble to these it really puts into light how arm chair dev some users are… also probably read your ToS I doubt they have to compensate anyone for this sort of scenario cause it’s not something cause by them it’s an outside issue lol. I do hope it gets resolved soon but for now plenty of games to play lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    Error 90002 occurs when your system closes the connection to the game, because it assumes it's dead. This is the most common disconnection error because usually your system calls it quits before the server does.

    90006 happens when the server closes the connection because it's given up trying to communicate with you, usually due to excessive packet loss.

    2002 happens when you are trying to connect to the lobby server but the lobby does not respond in time.

    Those error codes are nothing special, they are just generic HTTP/TCP etc. status codes and flags that SE has chosen to obfuscate with a numerical code.
    This.

    People are acting like the devs are just brushing it off and not taking it seriously but we legit know the answers to all these error codes. On top of that, the devs don't OWE any player information about their daily operations and what specifically they're doing to address any problems. It's cool that they try to keep us informed, but we need to not let the frustration over this inconvenience transform into some kind of entitlement to their business operations information.

    Quote Originally Posted by CStrife912 View Post
    at the moment I’m sort of glad it’s happening but it will then make future attacks less effective if they can find and plug what vulnerabilities are causing this
    Oh 100%. We're gonna be our own unintentional DDoS when DT drops, we don't need a malicious one happening on top of that. More than happy to have this be happening now so they can find the holes and plug them up during a content lull with nothing major at stake. I'm sorry you missed a rare fish, I'm sorry it interrupted an craft and you lost mats, but better that than millions of players not being able to do major content like MSQ.
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    Last edited by littlehobbit13; 05-15-2024 at 03:21 AM.

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    You can't 'stop' a DDOS attack without taking the whole game down.. (and even then the attack will just begin again once the game goes back up). It's such a simple yet effective way of taking a network down because it's deliberately emulating legitimate network traffic (it's rather akin to pranksters causing a massive traffic jam by driving a convoy of cars in a tunnel going slow, and towing strings of cardboard boxes behind them). DDOS basically spoof internet connections to a server (such as the game servers) by making it clog up with traffic and eventually crash, so it's very difficult to quickly find the source and seperate legitimate connections from the attackers.

    Usually these things sort of resolve themselves when the ones responsible tend to get bored and give up/accomplish their sinister goals at the same time as the system admins and network technicans mount countermeasures to block traffic from certain sources that they identify the attackers are using to access the network from, but that takes time, and further attacks are still possible as the attackers just use a different port or system to attack from, repeating the cycle.

    Sometimes DDOS attacks are acutally political - one such attack on FFXI occurred at the same time there was a dispute between South Korea and Japan over a WWII memorial back in the 2000s and South Korean hackers responded maliciously towards Japanese companies and networks, including FFXI. That attack lasted over a month as a recall, and in the meantime FFXI kept going down due to the attacks.

    FFXIV and FFXI have both suffered reoccuring DDOS attacks over the years, and this is no different. SE are doing everything they can do, like any company in their position. Just have patience.
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 05-14-2024 at 03:25 AM.
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    Yeah, this is getting pretty bad now.

    It needs to be addressed or there needs to be a public announcement about some sort of compensation.
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    surely the LIVE letter will give us hope
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    Quote Originally Posted by EZGIL View Post


    surely the LIVE letter will give us hope
    robot chicken, idiocracy? you're my kind of bunny Ezgil

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