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    Quote Originally Posted by JenniZockt View Post
    No, I complain that, as such a gigantic company, they are not able to take preventative measures, those are two different things
    WoW has suffered plenty of DDoS attacks before, and its quite frankly owned by a much larger and arguably more network suave company than Square Enix.
    DDoS is one of the hardest things to defend against purely because of the chaotic nature of it, along with the fact its one of the easiest attacks to increase at scale. Your first attack failed? Bring 10x the amount of infected devices the next time. You will eventually manage to overwhelm their preventative measures, no matter how strong.

    Even Google, Amazon, Microsoft, companies with some of the strongest network security in existence by spending billions upon billions in preventative measures, have had their services impacted by DDoS before. Even just last year, Azure, outlook & onedrive has service interruptions due to the effects of a titanic DDoS attack against them.

    As annoying as it is, DDoS is just something we have to live with. The amount of money Square Enix would need to invest in preventative measures is far too high for how very little they get DDoS'd (Even then, its not guaranteed their protections will be strong enough if the attackers come back with an even bigger botnet). It's easier for them to just give out free time in the random chances it happens and occurs for longer than 1-2 days.
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    I'm trying to login to my main and have winmtr open doing a constant tracert to the server so i can see the packetloss live and when I get 2002 errors, the NTT nodes on down the list to the server drop packets. It could be a NTT node issue for me in the US and someone is DDOS'ing those. I had similar issue yesterday but using hotspot fixed it which is odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    It seems, that TeliaSonera/Twelve99 has issues and not the FF14 servers.

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      4    14 ms    16 ms    14 ms  de-fra01b-rc2-ae-36-0.aorta.net [84.116.197.181]
      5    15 ms     *       18 ms  de-bfe18a-rt01-lag-1.aorta.net [84.116.190.34]
      6    14 ms    15 ms    13 ms  ae32-100-pcr1.fnt.cw.net [195.2.18.217]
      7    14 ms    14 ms    17 ms  telia-gw.fnt.cw.net [195.2.22.238]
      8     *        *        *     Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
      9    15 ms    16 ms    16 ms  ffm-k3-spe70-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.141.159]
     10     *        *        *     Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
     11     *        *        *     Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
     12     *        *        *     Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung.
     13    16 ms    17 ms    15 ms  squareenix-ic-369631.ip.twelve99-cust.net [80.239.195.85]
     14    14 ms    16 ms    14 ms  80.239.145.241
     15    15 ms    20 ms    12 ms  80.239.145.80




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    Explains why i cant even start the game in Finland
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
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    You did it! You said the thing!!

    Even Google, Amazon, Microsoft...have had their services impacted by DDoS before
    They do not get impacted for days on end. Days.

    Why is Square Enix so immune to any form of criticism whatsoever? Even the shareholders are critical, and they own the company.
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    I like how my ping goes from 45 to 100 the second it jumps into an NTT node very cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    You did it! You said the thing!!


    They do not get impacted for days on end. Days.

    Why is Square Enix so immune to any form of criticism whatsoever? Even the shareholders are critical, and they own the company.
    You omitted the answer from the very same post you quoted.

    As annoying as it is, DDoS is just something we have to live with. The amount of money Square Enix would need to invest in preventative measures is far too high for how very little they get DDoS'd (Even then, its not guaranteed their protections will be strong enough if the attackers come back with an even bigger botnet). It's easier for them to just give out free time in the random chances it happens and occurs for longer than 1-2 days.
    No MMO is going to invest hundreds of millions into DDoS protection when these attacks don't cost them anywhere near that much. The big tech companies cannot afford to go down globally for a day, FFXIV can. It's just a fact.

    But given you omitted that part and strawmanned the post into a criticism shield, I don't think you are here for constructive discussion anyway. Also, it's not like a DDoS is an everyday occurrence for this game. The last time i remember an attack as bad as Monday's was way back in 2018, this game has not suffered a major DDoS attack in a very long time.
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    Last edited by Sove92; 05-10-2024 at 06:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    Why is Square Enix so immune to any form of criticism whatsoever? Even the shareholders are critical, and they own the company.
    Because they arent the only one that faced such issue. PSN had ddos issues for weeks at some point. Feam fortress 2 (partialy due to neglect) had even an entire month.

    Google/microsoft/amazon all have 1 thing in common: they have the advantage of scale. Its not just 4 datacenters you need to attack to take them down. Its a lot more, and those datacenters are capable of handling a lot more traffic. There is no reason for square enix to install systems capable of handling the same sorts of traffic google would need. It would be a total waste of money.

    Sony and valve have the advantage of also needing bandwidth for their shop downloads. Its again something that enables them to scale up, and yet they have still faced severe ddos issues several times.

    Days of downtime is nothing in the scale of larger ddos attacks. Its quite normal.
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    Nw guys the cloud servers are coming one day. They just need the fund to rent servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JenniZockt View Post
    No, I complain that, as such a gigantic company, they are not able to take preventative measures, those are two different things
    There are no preventative measures that can stop all DDoS attacks. Even stopping almost all DDoS attacks would cost a lot more money than Square-Enix even has.
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    The only thing that the forum hates more than FF14 is not being able to play FF14 for a day.
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