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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Why can't they just trace back to where all the massive DDOS logins are coming from. There should be a way to trace where they come from.
    There are various ways for them to mask the traffic, but also even if you have a list of a million IP addresses, what does that actually get you? Usually, it's millions of compromised devices regular people own that are being used to initiate the attack. IoT botnets are a kind of scourge. SE could be being attacked by TVs, smart light bulbs, security cameras all controlled by malicious actors. Botnets can be very large and even if you block the first hundred thousand devices, they can send a different hundred thousand devices at it. It's a tough problem to solve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Why can't they just trace back to where all the massive DDOS logins are coming from. There should be a way to trace where they come from.
    They aren't login into the game at all. Someone is sending packets of information to deny access to the services hosted on the servers. As Sjol stated below, the gross of that traffic comes from unsecured IoT devices and even malware infected PCs... Here's a video explaining what a botnet is, maybe it can help you to understand how all this works , sometimes it can be a bit cryptic for people who are not into cybersec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQyaaK1S7WM

    For the same reason, is next to impossible to identify a culprit without a forensic investigation, and that can take days, weeks, months... Even your own pc could have been compromised by malware from somewhere and sending packets to the servers without your knowledge!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baklavah View Post
    It's basically a bunch of script kiddies who think DDOSing makes them "hackers". They're just annoying, but they pose very little threat. The only thing they're capable of doing is forcing a server offline. A temporary disruption of service. They're the chihuahuas of the hacker world. Lots of bark, and the best they can do is nip at your ankles.
    It could also be a DDoS service that charges by the hour to DDoS a person or an organization. Malicious actors these days can just find a DDoS service for hire via the dark web and pay them in bitcoin to disrupt and degrade an external-facing network.
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    Maybe titanmen got all his accounts banned for RMT and got mad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sjol View Post
    There are various ways for them to mask the traffic, but also even if you have a list of a million IP addresses, what does that actually get you? Usually, it's millions of compromised devices regular people own that are being used to initiate the attack. IoT botnets are a kind of scourge. SE could be being attacked by TVs, smart light bulbs, security cameras all controlled by malicious actors. Botnets can be very large and even if you block the first hundred thousand devices, they can send a different hundred thousand devices at it. It's a tough problem to solve.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsman View Post
    It could also be a DDoS service that charges by the hour to DDoS a person or an organization. Malicious actors these days can just find a DDoS service for hire via the dark web and pay them in bitcoin to disrupt and degrade an external-facing network.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sjol View Post
    There are various ways for them to mask the traffic
    Just to note, the most popular method is also the strongest and these days even standard: ddos amplification.

    Instead of directly sendig the spam to the server, you can often initiate unhacked devices to 'assist'. Just send a spoofed request towards such unhacked device acting as if you are the target. That device then responds with its data. A request could be 10kb of data, while the response could be 900kb. Thats a boost of 90x the traffic it would otherwise send. And now that hacked device has to send less, it can send a lot more of those requests.

    And the worst part is. Even if you trace back the data... you only see the unhacked device as source (the data they send still contains valid data, its just garbage for the purpose of the server). This can be used to mitigate future attacks as it can detect a source of vulnerable devices, but rarely this results in an actual fix. People are lazy at updating, or devices are never going to be fixed.

    This gets worse when isps do not install tools themselve to mitigate it. Which because it isnt mandatory and costs money, almost none does. They rather remain vulnerable to save costs, as when a ddos gets pointed to them, they can act as victim themselve.
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    Maybe someone got mad that BLU mages were messing up Yokai event fate farms, No issues here on NA but went to D/c travel to OCE and it started, So Best bet its still ongoing and SE will figure it out.
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    Please tell me that the DDoS attack is no longer ongoing and that I can chill and play later. I feel like I'm already experiencing withdrawal symptoms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerephinaBlossom View Post
    Maybe someone got mad that BLU mages were messing up Yokai event fate farms, No issues here on NA but went to D/c travel to OCE and it started, So Best bet its still ongoing and SE will figure it out.
    I don't think a single event with gaudy weapons is going to make someone that mad, however, entire fcs and communities being decimated because a large number of people can't pay for the game anymore and stand to lose years of progress and friendships? That could be it.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 05-07-2024 at 09:13 PM.

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    Pretty sure this is the first Major DDOS attack that affected all regions and data centers in a long while. Such a rare occurence needs thorough investigation or else we'll see more devastating attacks like this
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