Inventory Space Update

[Hasrat]

I like the suggestion of putting the bait in a special section in the inventory… I have never seen the key items tab go beyond 3 rows… all that space and I can’t use it.

So, you see a big empty inventory space, and say, "I want a separate big empty inventory space"? For the majority of players, a "bait bag" would be just as empty as they think their key items are, and they'd be complaining all the same. "All this empty space, why can't I use it for [something else].

More importantly, this comes up all the damn time, Key Items "inventory" isn't actual inventory space. You see more empty space because you (probably) have your inventory on expanded display. Reduce your display to normal and you'll see all that "space" just disappear. Key Items don't take up any inventory space, they're just quest markers.

I've decided to get rid of all my seeds and bait minus versatile lures (thanks to the elezen in my comments)

To be clear, I don't carry any more bait, because I've gone through the grind of catching all the fish. Versatile lures are always handy for casually leveling, checking fishing spots, lazily catching minor-importance (food related fish), and metal spinner is always the best for any custom delivery fish.

But for actually specifically targeting fish, for trying to catch big fish and complete fishing log, for basically doing anything but lazily casting and hooking, specific baits are more useful.

If you don't plan to hunt big fish, you don't need any more bait. If you do plan to hunt big fish, you'll need a lot of bait, but pretty much all of the bait is self-contained to each expansion (i.e. catching all HW fish means you'll never really need HW bait again). ARR just looks like it's overwhelming with bait because it covers a much broader level range (and many more zones), much like many other materials. But, again, if you catch all the ARR fish, you don't need all the ARR bait.

Anyone holding onto enough bait to think they need a "bait bag" is fishing slowly/inefficiently enough that they very likely don't need to be holding nearly as much bait as they think.

[Erin1491]

A little confused as to why people are actively against adding more space regardless of where it is added. I manage my inventory just fine without the need to hire extra retainers. I craft and fish and achievement hunt so I accumulate a lot of things but it's never felt unmanageable. Still, I wouldn't complain if they added more, that's a weird take to have. More space is good for all even if you aren't using it. A lot of other MMOs don't have such a restriction on space and storage. But the fact that Square monetized it pretty much ensures these additions are very unlikely.

[rawker]

Disregarding old content and completionism, the only time the capacity needs increasing is when the number of space allocated can no longer sustain what the game requires. Instead of asking for more inventory space, a wiser allocation of and deallocation of these resources needs to be of greater priority than a band aid solution of more space allocation

[Zaniel]

Looking through various people's examples they are all full of "project mismanagement" items. If you aren't doing a relic/glam/achievement now, you don't need it. Also, if you haven't leveled crafters then the likelihood of you needing ANY obscure crafting mats in the next 12 months is vanishingly small. The reality is a lot of these items are actually pretty easy to farm once you ACTUALLY decide to do the thing that needs them. Just get rid of them, and during that break between 9.6 and 10.0 when you actually decide to do XYZ, farm them then.

[Eraden]

A little confused as to why people are actively against adding more space regardless of where it is added. I manage my inventory just fine without the need to hire extra retainers. I craft and fish and achievement hunt so I accumulate a lot of things but it's never felt unmanageable. Still, I wouldn't complain if they added more, that's a weird take to have. More space is good for all even if you aren't using it. A lot of other MMOs don't have such a restriction on space and storage. But the fact that Square monetized it pretty much ensures these additions are very unlikely.

Mao agrees. Mao always wonderings why some peoples so adamants against QoL suggestions. Seems silly to Mao. For record, is other games whats has much more advanced storage systems. GW2 for examples, has specific section of character bank vault whats has expandable slots for every single crafting mat in game. Game also allows characters to do the craftings without has to withdraw mats from bank. Mats automatically withdrawn as crafting proceeds. GW2 also keeps database attached to character of all gears and dyes encountered by character. Is no need for storage of gears or dyes for glams. All storage types, whether bank or backspacks, also expandables. Because of this, as game (GW2) expands with more expansions, is no bigs hardship on players. Mao wishings FFXIV was little bits more likes this.

[Merrigan]

I just want a damn personnal chest. I love this game, I really do, but if there's one thing I've always wondered "why?" about, it's the storage mode.

Why servants, when the chest serves its purpose perfectly and is the universal language of mmorpg? It's... It's as anti-ergonomic as you can get, who thought of it in the first place?

[DemiBajamut]

It would be nice if we could get a third free retainer (and I'd be fine if it had some sort of limitation like not being able to sell on the market board) since the amount of stuff increases with every new expansion. I actually want the whole retainer system reworked to where the retainers just turn into a thing that are purely for sending on ventures and selling, and you can create a new main retainer called an "accountant" where they act as one giant inventory space (that grows depending on the amount of retainers you have) and anything you sell gets added to the accountant's gil storage. It's dumb that we gotta dig through different inventories, we obviously have item search but it's still a bit ridiculous.

I also really want dye storage added to the glamour dresser so I can dump all of it into there and easily use it, it would also be less annoying having to run to my dresser and retainer bell to dig out the dye I want (like half my retainer's inventory is dedicated to dyes, I could do without some of the dyes that I can buy from a vendor but I like making new glamour a lot).

Also before anyone lectures me, I've went over my storage like 10 times over and it's mostly glamour that would be a pain to get back, furniture, materials I do want to use, and dyes. I agree with others in the thread, why argue about more QoL that literally benefits everyone? If you pay for a third retainer now, if they add a new free one you won't have to pay for that one anymore.

[Asako]

I barely use the first page of my Inventory never mind all 4 pages. The only real time those fill is when I'm levelling a crafter or undertaking a crafting / relic project, and even then once it's done the stuff gets the flick.

I can understand why people want more, glamours especially, I don't care for glamours and have used the same ones for years. However the biggest thing they should do is introduce a glamour log so you dont need to hoard all the items. This in itself would reduce massive item bloat.

Get item, use glamour prism to add it to glamour log and you're done with that item for ever. When you want to glamour click your item, open the Glamour Log and bam you're done. It's really not that hard.

[Khryseis_Astra]

It would be nice if we could get a third free retainer

You can! The companion app gives you a free retainer and extra saddlebag space.

More importantly, this comes up all the damn time, Key Items "inventory" isn't actual inventory space. You see more empty space because you (probably) have your inventory on expanded display. Reduce your display to normal and you'll see all that "space" just disappear. Key Items don't take up any inventory space, they're just quest markers.

They’re empty slots just like other inventory slots, just unusable. My Wondrous Tales goes there, my anima glass, any bits and bobs you have to deliver for quests/fates and hunt bills. But I could take every available hunt bill and still have half a tab of space left over, to say nothing of the other side - in expanded view, yes - that has a whole tab of empty squares that have literally never been used for anything.

[Sjol]

I just want a damn personnal chest. I love this game, I really do, but if there's one thing I've always wondered "why?" about, it's the storage mode.

Why servants, when the chest serves its purpose perfectly and is the universal language of mmorpg? It's... It's as anti-ergonomic as you can get, who thought of it in the first place?

My strong suspicion is that retainers are just modeled after personal inventory and trade between them uses the same underlying trade logic as it does for players.

They're essentially summoning a player object for you to trade with without staging step of adding to the trade screen