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    lushblush's Avatar
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    Estelle Branford
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    i exclusively used them for all 4 expansions and i didn't find them that bad. i'm pretty sure i was able to comfortably pull multiple packs to my tank as DPS starting from ShB too
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by lushblush View Post
    i exclusively used them for all 4 expansions and i didn't find them that bad. i'm pretty sure i was able to comfortably pull multiple packs to my tank as DPS starting from ShB too
    You can definitely pull a second pack to the tank and they can handle it. Not sure about three packs but it can go messy just because of the distance, which can make party members start teleporting to you and things get in a muddle.
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    Taliriah's Avatar
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    Character
    Makoto Hinata
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Never puck Alphinaud if you can help it. Urianger is a more reliable healer
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    Y'sira Kurai
    World
    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    I heal I rarely have problems. Use trusts for all my new msq content and then rarely return to dungeons. I get my tomes and more from A rank hunts for the most part and pvp.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 05-06-2024 at 05:31 PM.

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    Character
    Ancalagon Blacktalon
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    the one thing that bugs me about it is how the tanks don't have visible mits. I don't see any buffs show up on their party listing, so it's not inconceivable that a person just learning tanking via Trust doesn't realize that those buttons mean something.

    I'm also unsure how true it is that the NPCs don't use AoEs, unless Gravity of the Seventh Dawn is now a single-target? (the AST Gravity is their AoE attack).
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Character
    Thalia Beckford
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    What? Thancred is an awesome tank. I run dps with him and double pull and he is on that stuff immediately.

    Some of the NPCs stand in stuff but I haven't seen Alphi get one-shot on that boss. Are you dropping something on him?
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    miraidensetsu's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Luno Belfi
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    The main problem is, Aphinaud is the worst healer in gaming history! He doesn't heal me at all until I have less than 20% health. And the tank isn't much better.
    That's why when Urianger is not available for healing, I would prefer heal that dungeon myself. Alphinauld is a pretty bad healer.

    Thancred can only deal one pack a time. Sometimes he can do 2 packs, but forget big pulls. G'raha is a better tank than him, honestly.

    About DPSes, I always bring Y'shtola. As BLM she does decent damage. If I'm not DPS'ing, Estinien does good damage as well. Alisaie hits like a wet noodle and wastes Limit Break.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Character
    Andreas Cestelle
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by miraidensetsu View Post
    That's why when Urianger is not available for healing, I would prefer heal that dungeon myself. Alphinauld is a pretty bad healer.

    Thancred can only deal one pack a time. Sometimes he can do 2 packs, but forget big pulls. G'raha is a better tank than him, honestly.

    About DPSes, I always bring Y'shtola. As BLM she does decent damage. If I'm not DPS'ing, Estinien does good damage as well. Alisaie hits like a wet noodle and wastes Limit Break.
    Alisae’s only good feature is she limit breaks all the time. Caster limit break on mobs is always preferable to melee limit break
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    Character
    Mira Clearweaver
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    I think it's pointless to pick them for their DPS considering their performance are like a rubber band. Even Urianger will be useful dmg wise if you're playing badly because his Gravity casts hurts, and Death seem to always proc reliably.
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    Character
    Arkadya Dravena
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    I think it's pointless to pick them for their DPS considering their performance are like a rubber band. Even Urianger will be useful dmg wise if you're playing badly because his Gravity casts hurts, and Death seem to always proc reliably.
    The correct way to optimize trust dps is to run Urianger and Estinien because they buff you which should be the best thing they can do at any given time. Ryne also good when she's available.
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