i exclusively used them for all 4 expansions and i didn't find them that bad. i'm pretty sure i was able to comfortably pull multiple packs to my tank as DPS starting from ShB too

i exclusively used them for all 4 expansions and i didn't find them that bad. i'm pretty sure i was able to comfortably pull multiple packs to my tank as DPS starting from ShB too






You can definitely pull a second pack to the tank and they can handle it. Not sure about three packs but it can go messy just because of the distance, which can make party members start teleporting to you and things get in a muddle.
Never puck Alphinaud if you can help it. Urianger is a more reliable healer




I heal I rarely have problems. Use trusts for all my new msq content and then rarely return to dungeons. I get my tomes and more from A rank hunts for the most part and pvp.
Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 05-06-2024 at 05:31 PM.

the one thing that bugs me about it is how the tanks don't have visible mits. I don't see any buffs show up on their party listing, so it's not inconceivable that a person just learning tanking via Trust doesn't realize that those buttons mean something.
I'm also unsure how true it is that the NPCs don't use AoEs, unless Gravity of the Seventh Dawn is now a single-target? (the AST Gravity is their AoE attack).





What? Thancred is an awesome tank. I run dps with him and double pull and he is on that stuff immediately.
Some of the NPCs stand in stuff but I haven't seen Alphi get one-shot on that boss. Are you dropping something on him?


That's why when Urianger is not available for healing, I would prefer heal that dungeon myself. Alphinauld is a pretty bad healer.The main problem is, Aphinaud is the worst healer in gaming history! He doesn't heal me at all until I have less than 20% health. And the tank isn't much better.
Thancred can only deal one pack a time. Sometimes he can do 2 packs, but forget big pulls. G'raha is a better tank than him, honestly.
About DPSes, I always bring Y'shtola. As BLM she does decent damage. If I'm not DPS'ing, Estinien does good damage as well. Alisaie hits like a wet noodle and wastes Limit Break.




Alisae’s only good feature is she limit breaks all the time. Caster limit break on mobs is always preferable to melee limit breakThat's why when Urianger is not available for healing, I would prefer heal that dungeon myself. Alphinauld is a pretty bad healer.
Thancred can only deal one pack a time. Sometimes he can do 2 packs, but forget big pulls. G'raha is a better tank than him, honestly.
About DPSes, I always bring Y'shtola. As BLM she does decent damage. If I'm not DPS'ing, Estinien does good damage as well. Alisaie hits like a wet noodle and wastes Limit Break.





I think it's pointless to pick them for their DPS considering their performance are like a rubber band. Even Urianger will be useful dmg wise if you're playing badly because his Gravity casts hurts, and Death seem to always proc reliably.


The correct way to optimize trust dps is to run Urianger and Estinien because they buff you which should be the best thing they can do at any given time. Ryne also good when she's available.
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