Is anyone else hoping SMN keeps Resurrection?

[EdenElsewhere]

I mean physick can be dropped if it's not gonna scale with INT (though I would like to be able to shield anyone with Carbuncle in return), but I think SMN keeping resurrection isn't game breaking, especially as it sounds like Pictomancer will be between SMN and BLM in terms of damage.

I also like the idea of SMN continuing to partial support, which is a concept found in FF9 and FF10 where the summoners were also white mages.

[Rehayem]

Did they mention SMN is gonna lose resurrection? I don't recall that. I thought they're making a clear distinction in casters where some will have a res and some won't.

[EdenElsewhere]

Did they mention SMN is gonna lose resurrection? I don't recall that. I thought they're making a clear distinction in casters where some will have a res and some won't.

I think someone said they have thought about throwing out Physick and Resurrection with the next time the class was updated. However that could have been before pictomancer was in development.

[TMW001]

I think someone said they have thought about throwing out Physick and Resurrection with the next time the class was updated. However that could have been before pictomancer was in development.

I can accept removing Physick its absolutely useless on SMN but Resurrection for smn should stay that is too useful a tool kit when all healers are down and tank is doing their best hold through a tank buster on half their HP.

[Zairava]

Did they mention SMN is gonna lose resurrection? I don't recall that. I thought they're making a clear distinction in casters where some will have a res and some won't.

It was never mentioned that they would be losing resurrection, you are correct in that them making a distinction that some will and others won't.

I don't think they would get rid of resurrection on summoner even if they wanted to because it's unlocked as arcanist at lvl 12.

[Sylvain]

It was never mentioned that they would be losing resurrection, you are correct in that them making a distinction that some will and others won't.

I don't think they would get rid of resurrection on summoner even if they wanted to because it's unlocked as arcanist at lvl 12.

The very long list of spell SCH used to have from ARC would like to have a word with you.
Clearly, they've no issue with that.

If they can remove ARC spells from SCH they can remove ARC spells from SMN

[Supersnow845]

The very long list of spell SCH used to have from ARC would like to have a word with you.
Clearly, they've no issue with that.

If they can remove ARC spells from SCH they can remove ARC spells from SMN

In both ShB and EW SCH straight up loses half its kit putting on the job stone

[Kimmay]

They said they would remove Resurrection depending on how Summoner was received in Endwalker, and that it barely survived now because they felt taking that away would be too much change. I believe this was during their showcase of the new abilities. They've made no mention of it since then, but I personally like having it around.

[Zairava]

They said they would remove Resurrection depending on how Summoner was received in Endwalker, and that it barely survived now because they felt taking that away would be too much change. I believe this was during their showcase of the new abilities. They've made no mention of it since then, but I personally like having it around.

Ah, I must have forgot then. I'm personally indifferent if it keeps it or not, but it is nice having.

In my opinion, SMN needs another rework. EW SMN is the most terrible design choices they have made since 2.0. The job started as a pet job, it should remain as such. Haters gonna hate but this iteration is just plain bad, no excuses.

I'd probably like the rework a tad more if it kept the DoT gameplay or egi assault 1/2 (or both) instead of lego brick stacks.

Still, Shadowbringers was my favorite iteration of Summoner by far

[rawker]

I'd probably like the rework a tad more if it kept the DoT gameplay or egi assault 1/2 (or both) instead of lego brick stacks.

Still, Shadowbringers was my favorite iteration of Summoner by far

I'll just leave it here.

I know i'm gonna contradict with what i said to no longer care about SMN but i will do one more attempt.

1. Keep old pet mechanics, same with SCH. Pets take damage and you can boost their mobility and sustain
2. While the egi is out, you gain avatar's favor. This favor passively increases. Keeping the egi out passively drains MP over time
3. Ordering the egi to do attacks speeds up the favor gathering and costs some MP.
4. Once it reaches 100, enkindle lights up, and you transform the egi to their full primal form, do their signature attack, dissipates, then puts the egi in an extended cooldown.
5. Doing all the summoning, powersup greater primal summoning.
6. Should it reach a certain point, you have the option to either summon Bahamut or Phoenix.
7. DoTs makes a comeback to SMN so damage is ticking while you order your pets, sustain them and gain favors faster.
8. Carbuncle is the filler summon
9. oGCDs solely interacting with the dots

Just curious, were you able to play SMN before Stormblood? You can watch videos of old guides talking about how old SMNs were.