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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    The music is great, but it was not properly mixed.

    The graphics are great, but the engine is terrible.

    The world is huge and semi-seamless, but the terrain is copy-pasted.

    For everything SE did right at launch, there was at least one thing they did wrong to cancel it out.
    Pretty much this.

    I do remember back in the Alpha days, before the Stamina Gauge, there was an actual traditional ATB battle gauge. At the time I thought it was pretty cool and had potential to make a really strategic MMO. However it seemed like Dev's at the time were going for a fast paced game and the ATB gauge wasn't delivering on that. Thus, the laggy Stamina Gauge was born.

    I did like the on paper concept of the armory system. It was kind of a way to make your own unique class from the ones given to you. Make a sword wielding mage, or be a heavy armored mage, it was your choice. However, like I said the concept sounded good only on paper and became a colossal unbalanced mess that the developers had an extremely hard time balancing. The point allotment system even was a good idea, if stats actually showed for something.

    I was on board with the Physical/SP level system, but it was horrifying leveling your SP. I fight a really tough monster and I smack it and smack it and smack it and I get no EXP from that long fight while someone else got 400+ SP for it. This was a complete deal breaker for me at the time and realized how awful this game was when I was being optimistic as humanly possible. There is no way to justify this system.

    People can throw the "WoW' clone at the upcoming 2.0 if they want, but seriously, sometimes going too original can really bite you in the ass, and SE found this out the hard way. But I still believe FFXIV 2.0 will still be original, but fall of WoW's success, not copy/pasting them. Successes such as "Content Finder" and basic UI concepts.
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    I keep coming back to this. There is a console MMORPG out there that has a fantastic UI, fast-paced combat, beautifully designed world and lore, and perfectly blends traditional MMORPG elements with newer ideas.

    The problem is, it is actually a single-player offline RPG called Xenoblade Chronicles.
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    I guess I was not clear in my OP.

    I don't give a rats behind how messed up something was at launch. Im asking what concepts ar features they had that you were a fan of, regardless of the issues that plagued them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricksy View Post
    I guess I was not clear in my OP.

    I don't give a rats behind how messed up something was at launch. Im asking what concepts ar features they had that you were a fan of, regardless of the issues that plagued them.
    You expect a whole forum of negative people to not be negative?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    You expect a whole forum of negative people to not be negative?
    Negativity is part of life. I was just hoping people would think about FF14 when it was new and remember how some of it was actually fresh and exciting. I think it was my fault for not saying that the features could be imperfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricksy View Post
    Negativity is part of life. I was just hoping people would think about FF14 when it was new and remember how some of it was actually fresh and exciting. I think it was my fault for not saying that the features could be imperfect.
    Sorry, this forum's negativity is an understatement and anyone who makes a thread here, or most internet forums in general, will have to understand that negativity will always rear it's head. Even fan art threads here some how lead into a debate about the game's concepts.

    Its hard to think about the positive aspects of the original FFXIV when I get a headache thinking about all the bad things that were plagued around it. Game was so horrific and nearly unplayable that people can't help but bring up the bad points of those "neat features".

    In short. You attempted to make a positive thread in a negative forums based on a subject that inevitably leads to more negativity, the original FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Sorry, this forum's negativity is an understatement and anyone who makes a thread here, or most internet forums in general, will have to understand that negativity will always rear it's head. Even fan art threads here some how lead into a debate about the game's concepts.

    Its hard to think about the positive aspects of the original FFXIV when I get a headache thinking about all the bad things that were plagued around it. Game was so horrific and nearly unplayable that people can't help but bring up the bad points of those "neat features".

    In short. You attempted to make a positive thread in a negative forums based on a subject that inevitably leads to more negativity, the original FFXIV.


    even with the total bullshit we've been through, we're still the tamest mmo community out there.
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    Uh, the gear and enemies are by far some of the best looking that I've seen.

    .....that's about it.
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    armory system, and personally I enjoyed the no auto attack system more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krausus View Post
    armory system, and personally I enjoyed the no auto attack system more.
    It was terrible. Unless you were some sort of 300 words per minute typer, it was impossible to communicate in even the most laid back fights.

    Maybe if there was some sort of built in voice chat, but I don't even like voice chatting all the time I'm in game.

    The only way I could see the no auto attack thing work is if you could queue up at least 10 seconds worth of commands.
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