I got a question! (PLD)

[Vatom]

Thank you I will respond to the BW and then move on. (Please understand I not being combative when I say this)

BW was the answer to TBN being busted so everyone got a TBN
Are they balanced right now (debatable) but they are not clemency or a replacement for it HS is and intervention. Also BW doesn’t heal to to full all the time but it does comeback fast I’ll give you that. But If you want to start pointing out broken things we can look HG but that will derail the conversation.

It’s not be maybe I’m not explaining well enough I do apologize.
WAR has more healing due to having less mit not a good enough reasoning. (Their mit is a different form I’m aware instead of brick their a meat shield)

Yes if I follow SE logic then yes everyone should have the same thing just flavor different. For example (all the TBN competitors)
If they give everyone one of those then why not? If your going to complain about job identity, should have spoke up sooner they when they gave PLD healing on HS and HC. Or when everyone got a TBN. Or when tank stance was taken. That ship is arriving in Dawntrail. If to yell loud enough maybe the next expansion.

Ok here is a better question from the whole kit from all the tanks. Since you can spot it , what is clemency or better yet what is that flavor ability that doesn’t intentionally contribute to the kit.

[EusisLandale]

what is that flavor ability that doesn’t intentionally contribute to the kit.

Considering these things are part of the kits and didn't just happen accidentally, I'm assuming more so you just mean things that stick out like a sore thumb.
Warrior: Shake it Off. That is a healer ability through and through, just flavored as making everyone too angry to die. It even eats any of your other mitigations.
Dark Knight: Dark Mind. Flavor is just protecting from the main people Dark Knights in the setting were hunting, corrupt church dudes aka mages, and yet it's so utterly useless if you're not taking magic damage specifically.
Gunbreaker: Aurora. You've got healing magic bullets because they needed some excuse for self healing here to keep up with anyone with better reasons for it.

[Zairava]

Thank you I will respond to the BW and then move on. (Please understand I not being combative when I say this)

BW was the answer to TBN being busted so everyone got a TBN
Are they balanced right now (debatable) but they are not clemency or a replacement for it HS is and intervention. Also BW doesn’t heal to to full all the time but it does comeback fast I’ll give you that. But If you want to start pointing out broken things we can look HG but that will derail the conversation...

Okay, to touch on everything here

TBN isn't really "busted", and never has been. It's just in Shadowbringers the power creep of tbn was starting to show since tbn is more powerful the higher your hp pool is. TBN excels at throwing damage into the trash bin because it's a 25% HP shield, this does mean it's more powerful with other mitigation such as Rampart or Shadow Wall because they reduce the damage intake.

As for the balancing of them, all of the short CD's are balanced EXCEPT for Bloodwhetting. Even in single target it's more powerful than tbn is. I can provide basic math for explanation, but I won't provide that much deep detail unless you actually want it.

PLD's self-sustain is only overdone because it's on your confiteor combo, I think if it were just HS it would be fine. GNB is probably the most balanced aside of DRK.


And Hallowed ground is actually the worst invuln since Living Dead got buffed, due to its CD being so long.

If they give everyone one of those then why not? If your going to complain about job identity, should have spoke up sooner they when they gave PLD healing on HS and HC. Or when everyone got a TBN. Or when tank stance was taken. That ship is arriving in Dawntrail. If to yell loud enough maybe the next expansion.

I've been screaming into the void for DRK's combat identity since Shadowbringers, many of us have on and off of the forums (I didn't start on here until around Endwalker, though). As well as letting us position bosses.

Ok here is a better question from the whole kit from all the tanks. Since you can spot it , what is clemency or better yet what is that flavor ability that doesn’t intentionally contribute to the kit.

• Warrior: Shake it off, but that honestly needs to be nerfed because it's pretty ludicrous how potent it is when we have a role dedicated to healing.
• Dark Knight: If it weren't for the addition of Oblation, I would have said the fact that flat mits actually make TBN stronger, but with Oblation it seems they've been aware for a while. If they still aren't somehow, then interaction rather than any single button is my pick.
• Gunbreaker: ...idk, camouflage? Parry on a defensive is pretty weird to be in modern ffxiv, but it thematically makes sense when you consider their weapons are lightweight and allow for faster reactions.