Help out a healer?

[wolfcub71]

Hello

Can someone please explain to me(maybe its just me), why every tank in a grp, has to complete the dungeon, trial or whatver, has to clear the dungeon in record time? they seem to want to pull the whole dungeons mobs before we even get to first boss, making it impossible to keep up,let alone keep him alive. Maybe i am missing something here, if so, could someone please explain to me?

Many thx

[Tint]

The community has agreed over time that this is the way they want to clear the content.

It's not really the tanks choice. If he was going any slower a DD or healer would just run ahead and pull everything.

To deal with it you have to stay close to the tank at any time. Only use sprint when the tank uses sprint or you will have trouble with keeping up with him when your sprint is on cooldown and the tank runs ahead.

Start casting heals before the HP of the tank actually drop. As soon as the tank stops moving start to cast the heal.

When you pull aggro move close to the tank so he can grab the enemies from you.

[DiaDeem]

In most scenarios, you should be able to keep up with these kinds of pulls. The biggest issue honestly comes when the tank isn't mitigating whatsoever and they expect you to just heal through, which you can do... but it's annoying.

I personally find very little value in completing a dungeon in 15 minutes instead of 17, but I also don't think it's too difficult to do wall-to-wall pulls if everyone's just playing their job right.

You can always ask the tank to slow down a bit if it's really too tough for you.

[AmiableApkallu]

On the subject of "keep the tank alive": As a WHM, you can toss anything without a cast time, such as Regen, on the Tank, while you're running.

Combined with Tint's suggestion to Sprint when the tank sprints, y'all should be okay -- unless you have one of those tanks that doesn't bother to mitigate dungeon trash, in which case, you're in for a rough time no matter what you do.

[Araxes]

On the subject of "keep the tank alive": As a WHM, you can toss anything without a cast time, such as Regen, on the Tank, while you're running.

No, do not use Regen on a pulling Tank. Shields are a better option. Regen often causes Mobs to run straight past the Tank and directly towards the healer which then causes the Tank to do full turnaround to fish the mobs away from you.

Edit: scrap that, seems they fixed/changed that.

[Fawkes]

No, do not use Regen on a pulling Tank. Shields are a better option. Regen often causes Mobs to run straight past the Tank and directly towards the healer which then causes the Tank to do full turnaround to fish the mobs away from you.

They changed regen to not give enmity.

[Araxes]

They changed regen to not give enmity.

Oh! Good to know! I had no clue. Guess i should start reading patch notes more carefully again.

[Merrigan]

No, do not use Regen on a pulling Tank. Shields are a better option. Regen often causes Mobs to run straight past the Tank and directly towards the healer which then causes the Tank to do full turnaround to fish the mobs away from you.

You're only talking about cases where the healer casts the regen at the very moment of aggro; if launched before/during the pull, there are no more problems now.

[TaleraRistain]

No, do not use Regen on a pulling Tank. Shields are a better option. Regen often causes Mobs to run straight past the Tank and directly towards the healer which then causes the Tank to do full turnaround to fish the mobs away from you.

Edit: scrap that, seems they fixed/changed that.

Yeah they fixed that so it's safe to pop a Regen on the tank. Also remember if it's a WHM, they're a pure healer and limited on shields. First isn't until 66 IIRC.

[Supersnow845]

The dungeons after about level 50 are explicitly designed for the tank to just pull to the next arbitrary block or “wall” and then above about 80 the tank can basically heal themselves without you so the idea of pushing all the way to the wall just trickles down into all content even if the ARR dungeons don’t really work the same way