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  1. #31
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    If someone is new and wants to read wall inscriptions or something I got no problem with that.
    But if you’ve hit level 50 content, you best be ready to zoom. Most are going to be way overgeared for it.
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  2. #32
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    Merrigan Gilgard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    If someone is new and wants to read wall inscriptions or something I got no problem with that.
    But if you’ve hit level 50 content, you best be ready to zoom. Most are going to be way overgeared for it.
    ... And you definitely don't realize the number of players who stop for a while, and start again having forgotten everything.
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  3. #33
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    They expect to just spend 16-20 minutes in there at most. If you drag it out to 30-50 minutes, many of them won't be happy.
    The difference between big pulls and small pulls is maybe a couple minutes. I don't think one person could make a dungeon go from 15 minutes to 30 minutes, that's a group effort.
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  4. #34
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    Araxes's Avatar
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    Runic Raven
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    On the subject of "keep the tank alive": As a WHM, you can toss anything without a cast time, such as Regen, on the Tank, while you're running.
    No, do not use Regen on a pulling Tank. Shields are a better option. Regen often causes Mobs to run straight past the Tank and directly towards the healer which then causes the Tank to do full turnaround to fish the mobs away from you.

    Edit: scrap that, seems they fixed/changed that.
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    Last edited by Araxes; 05-06-2024 at 09:42 PM.
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    No, do not use Regen on a pulling Tank. Shields are a better option. Regen often causes Mobs to run straight past the Tank and directly towards the healer which then causes the Tank to do full turnaround to fish the mobs away from you.
    Hey, thats still tank mitigation! Dungeon mobs are rarely capable of killing unless theres a ton, and the average tank will yank them off healer after grouping. :P
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  6. #36
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    No, do not use Regen on a pulling Tank. Shields are a better option. Regen often causes Mobs to run straight past the Tank and directly towards the healer which then causes the Tank to do full turnaround to fish the mobs away from you.
    They changed regen to not give enmity.



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    Last edited by Fawkes; 05-06-2024 at 09:11 PM.

  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    No, do not use Regen on a pulling Tank. Shields are a better option. Regen often causes Mobs to run straight past the Tank and directly towards the healer which then causes the Tank to do full turnaround to fish the mobs away from you.
    You're only talking about cases where the healer casts the regen at the very moment of aggro; if launched before/during the pull, there are no more problems now.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    They changed regen to not give enmity.



    Oh! Good to know! I had no clue. Guess i should start reading patch notes more carefully again.
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    No, do not use Regen on a pulling Tank. Shields are a better option. Regen often causes Mobs to run straight past the Tank and directly towards the healer which then causes the Tank to do full turnaround to fish the mobs away from you.

    Edit: scrap that, seems they fixed/changed that.
    Yeah they fixed that so it's safe to pop a Regen on the tank. Also remember if it's a WHM, they're a pure healer and limited on shields. First isn't until 66 IIRC.
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  10. #40
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    Makoto Hinata
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfcub71 View Post
    Hello

    Can someone please explain to me(maybe its just me), why every tank in a grp, has to complete the dungeon, trial or whatver, has to clear the dungeon in record time? they seem to want to pull the whole dungeons mobs before we even get to first boss, making it impossible to keep up,let alone keep him alive. Maybe i am missing something here, if so, could someone please explain to me?

    Many thx
    no ones wants to slowly kill trash mobs one at a time, it's simply boring
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