Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
So again literally what do you actually want the tanks to do (~~besides be the healer~~)

No enmity, basically immortal, a wealth of healing a defensives, a rotation that is far easier than the melee

What are even your responsibilities at that point, you are just playing an immortal melee DPS
Boss Positioning used to be fun until they decided melee downtime was illegal.

I still think proper mitigation cycling and optimization is fun, the problem is the discrepancy of outgoing damage in low end/high end content.
In high end content I actually think the current suite of mitigation is tested fairly well, WAR isn't as broken in single target situations, DRK's lack of sustain isn't an issue in raids
In low end content, Tank mastery (baseline 20% mit at all times) basically is all the mitigation you'll ever need forcibly baked in to the job, which I don't like and think the first step to fixing tank is removing this trait.

I mean to be blunt here, I think the dungeon gameplay and normal content in this game just sorta sucks, I avoid doing dungeons and roulette content whenever I can. To me, the best place where tank has ever felt properly tested is Criterion, especially savage and and no one does that.