Pictomancer is absurd

[Pip_Chick]

You know what would be really cool, but will never see the light of day due to development time constraints? The ability to choose a style. Watercolour, the cartoony look we currently have and which seems to appeal to a lot of people, and my oriental 'ink' look.

I'm dreaming, I know.

I would love that, but it's not very likely since no other job has this.
I still love the cartoony look, but I wouldn't cry if they adjusted it to look more sketchy or watercolour-y, etc. I would not want realism though, I feel it would blend too much with the other spell effects and needs something distinctive to set it apart. But either of the 3 you mentioned would be amazing!
I would also be very sold on the idea that the VFX would change with the brush itself like the normal, level 90 brush would have a cartoony look, maybe the level 100 brush would have a watercolour look and the Ultimate/Savage/Extreme would be more of a sketchy/oriental ink look! But I can dream!

[PercibelTheren]

I was saying that specifically to people who have a problem with pictomancer being cutesy. I don't think the people not playing edgelords are as likely to have an issue with that as the people who are, but maybe that's too much of an assumption.

You can not like an aesthetic and also not be opposed to others having it, I think it takes a certain kind of person to both, not like it and be opposed to others employing it.

Also, the point with guns is more that it's silly. FFXIV is filled with silly jobs, I have no problem with that, plenty of jobs on that list are silly one way or another. But I don't see people moaning when it's edgy silly, yet people come out of the woodworks to complain when it's cute and silly.

It's OK to use a farmer tool, a gun, mathemathics or a fist (against swords) or a dance in a fantasy game, but a paintbrush? Now that's silly.

I just wish people wouldn't cloak 'I hate cute things and want everything to be in the style I like, even if I may not see it' (...turning off other people's animations is almost a must in this game if you don't want a headache...) as being some kind of gatekeeper for the game not being silly. The game is silly, the game is absurd, just, this is a type of silly/absurd that appeals to me and others. I understand FF7 is a lot of people's vibe of the FF series, but FF9 (which has a similar artstyle) and 1-6 still exist.

I main healers. I run around throwing flowers and glitter everywhere. I have no issue with cute jobs. I still think the paint effects of picto look hideous.

[Burmecia]

I have no issue with cute jobs. I still think the paint effects of picto look hideous.

Idea!!: if summoners can change their carby, give PIC options to choose their spell effects.
Effect pack 1: Toontown
Effect pack 2: Chiaroscuro



EDIT similar (and probably more genuine ideas than mine, this was just s#itposting) ideas above!!
i didn't read thread at all across the last few pages. sorry and thank you!

[Supersnow845]

I main healers. I run around throwing flowers and glitter everywhere. I have no issue with cute jobs. I still think the paint effects of picto look hideous.

Would be nice if healers got back some of their dark aesthetics as well. I’m sick of UWU mages

Choice is always best across any role

[Reinha]

The animations look pretty tacky and I hate the moogle one in particular. BLU has the same issue. But hey, I don't have to play this job. Reaper and viper look amazing. Like they are powerful and actually there to fight something. Fingers crossed that viper will not have positionals.

[Turtledeluxe]

The animations look pretty tacky and I hate the moogle one in particular. BLU has the same issue. But hey, I don't have to play this job. Reaper and viper look amazing. Like they are powerful and actually there to fight something. Fingers crossed that viper will not have positionals.

The reasonable approach is to dislike what the job currently offers and make constructive suggestions about future abilities and iterations of the job.

The toxic approach is to insult the job and whine about its existence.

Which, to be clear, I'm quoting your post because I think it's reasonable. If you don't like it, play something else and hope for the best in the future. Let the people who enjoy it right now enjoy it.

[PyurBlue]

Picto won't be my favorite class but it doesn't seem out of place compared to the other jobs. The way magic works in FF14 isn't very restrictive so I don't see why paint magic couldn't exist. Aesthetically I'd rate Reaper lower. And nothing is as annoying as Summoners spawning Titan.

[AnimaAnimus]

On the subject of the kawaii nature of the job, imo it's not so much that cutesy is bad, it's the personality types of the adults that are drawn to it that just make you wince and honestly have ruined so much anime for me by association. It's cute when you're 14, not so much when your 34. I am just anticipating the highest levels of saccharine second hand embarrasment come DT.

And before you start furiously typing, ppl openly complain about the egdelords all the time and it seems fine, but the moment you complain about the kawaii obsessed adults, which we need a name for similar to edgelord, suddenly you are a horrible person who should just let ppl enjoy what they enjoy, or you should find a different game, cause reasons. Which just frankly makes these types more insufferable because it makes them seem even more immature.

That being said, the artstyle of the animations is really horrible too. One of the things SE is known for is it's graphics, they could do a lot better.

[PercibelTheren]

Idea!!: if summoners can change their carby, give PIC options to choose their spell effects.
Effect pack 1: Toontown
Effect pack 2: Chiaroscuro



EDIT similar (and probably more genuine ideas than mine, this was just s#itposting) ideas above!!
i didn't read thread at all across the last few pages. sorry and thank you!

I would love effect packs, honestly. I'd kill for Summoner being able to get the Eden versions of the primals, for example.

[Burmecia]

And before you start furiously typing, ppl openly complain about the egdelords all the time and it seems fine, but the moment you complain about the kawaii obsessed adults, which we need a name for similar to edgelord, suddenly you are a horrible person who should just let ppl enjoy what they enjoy, or you should find a different game, cause reasons. Which just frankly makes these types more insufferable because it makes them seem even more immature.

Dunno, but I have creeping suspicion that edgelordliness is actually slightly (or more than slightly) tolerated; like in society, like in arguments about media and culture. And there is wide grey area where thing x occupying it is kinda edgelordy but also respectable.

See Dark Knight/Samurai/Reaper/Dragoon.

Then, we see a little bit of candy coloured something and the only way for that thing to reclaim their credence is to become less fun and whimsical and colourful. Why? Genuinely why? Why I never saw demands for cute, colorful flair for any of the four jobs above? Why I only see demands for PIC to not be colorful and quirky, or DNC to only be "female character only job!!".

(⬆= quotation marks, because i knew someone who was very distressed about the idea of ever seeing male character dancer. i also have creeping suspicion that they weren't alone with their opinion.)

I am pretty sure most pro-PIC people aren't obsessed with kawaii, and actually enjoy darkness and moody aesthetic too. (mememe!)
But there is excitement in having something fun and new and unique in horizon, and it'd be disappointment to have it turned into same old dark and mysterious and grievous aesthetic just because; when the game is not lacking that, unlike the cute and colorful aesthetic.

Only place where the whimsy runs rampant are the humorous housing skins, paissas and moogles and candies! While I just want haukke manor of my own!! Please.