I Was Looking Forward To Playing Pictomancer

[Kacho_Nacho]

After watching this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEJFcE1j_Sg, my head is spinning. There is such a disconnect going on here.

The trailer portrays Pictomancer as a fun, whimsical job. I was looking forward it and was expecting something flashy and inline with the other jobs in terms of complexity and damage.

Yet, from the Live Letter, it appears I'll need the mental skill sufficient to defeat Grandmaster Ahmad Al-Khatib without looking at a chessboard in order to play the job.
If the job truly is as complicated described, Pictomancer will end up being the least played job in FFXIV.

In an expansion where Square Enix seems committed to simplifying jobs, to the point of adding the option for players to assign combos to a single button, why introduce such a complicated job? It makes no sense.

Who signed off on this?

[ASkellington]

In an expansion where Square Enix seems committed to simplifying jobs, to the point of adding the option for players to assign combos to a single button, why introduce such a complicated job? It makes no sense.

Counter argument: people have been asking for more job complexity. They may now have a job to their preferences.

[Kacho_Nacho]

There's always Smn

I’m talking about Pictomancer. The existence of Summoner doesn’t matter in this conversation.

Counter argument: people have been asking for more job complexity. They may now have a job to their preferences.

Offering one complex job while also ignoring all the requests by people who want their existing jobs to be more complex is odd, like, painfully odd. Shouldn't the right hand know what the left hand is doing?

I doubt it's actually as complicated as it seems, but even if that is the case the obvious solution there is if you don't like it, don't play it

That's not the point.

Picto's aesthetics don't appeal to me at all, but if it turns out to actually be a complicated job I think that is a wonderful addition to a game that is increasingly being dumbed down across the board. It is important that the game have a wide variety of jobs at different complexities to cater to different player preferences. It is completely irrelevant if a job is the "least played" or not.

It is relevant. I don't feel it is a sound decision to make one of the showcased jobs of a new expansion overly complicated just because CBU3 simultaneously decided to dumb down every other job even further.

I mean, what's the point? If CBU3 wanted a range of complexities, they could have easily tweaked the other jobs to achieve that goal.

That's not what we're getting.

[ASkellington]

Offering one complex job while also ignoring all the requests by people who want their existing jobs to be more complex is odd, like, painfully odd. Shouldn't the right hand know what the left hand is doing?

While I agree its odd... it feels sadly on brand.

[CidHeiral]

It is relevant.

It isn't, at all. Things don't have to be popular to be positive additions to a game. Niche options bring in players who otherwise wouldn't be interested at all, like Hrothgar.

I don't feel it is a sound decision to make one of the showcased jobs of a new expansion overly complicated just because CBU3 simultaneously decided to dumb down every other job even further.

I doubt the two are related, and something being "overly complicated" is subjective. You may find it to be that way and someone else may find it to be just right. That's why having a mix of everything is important for the health of the game. Everybody can find something that they like.

I mean, what's the point? If CBU3 wanted a range of complexities, they could have easily tweaked the other jobs to achieve that goal.

If you have twenty jobs where ten are complex and the other ten are simple, it doesn't matter whether some are new and some are old. It's the same difference. The job you thought looked neat ended up potentially being a complex one. If that actually ends up being the case you can either rise to the occasion or accept that it isn't your cup of tea. Complaining about changes to an existing job is one thing, but complaining that a wholly new job wasn't designed for your personal preferences is pretty egotistical.

I was pretty excited for Viper but it looks like it's just melee Dancer. I hate Dancer, so that sucks, but it is what it is. It may turn out that job just isn't for me and that's fine.

[OgruMogru]

There's always Smn

[LordMcMutton]

To be fair, all Jobs seem incredibly complicated when you get dropped into the deep end right at the beginning- it may not be as complicated as it seems once you get some practice in

[Raikai]

To be fair, all Jobs seem incredibly complicated when you get dropped into the deep end right at the beginning- it may not be as complicated as it seems once you get some practice in

Exactly! BLM for example looks deceptively complicated, which part of the culprit is how bad the tooltip writing is, but in the end the actual rotation is one of the easiest to memorize. The hard part is something entirely different.

Also we get to see things without the rotational context. Maybe it's adding in AoE alongside the single target, or situational actions that are used just as a save (e.g Hurajin).

[Local_Custard]

I just watched the pictomancer portion of the job actions and I am getting the sense I will enjoy it a lot once I get to know it. I am now watching through the liveletter gameplay and the feeling hasn't changed

[GTK0HLK]

Exactly! BLM for example looks deceptively complicated, which part of the culprit is how bad the tooltip writing is, but in the end the actual rotation is one of the easiest to memorize. The hard part is something entirely different.

Also we get to see things without the rotational context. Maybe it's adding in AoE alongside the single target, or situational actions that are used just as a save (e.g Hurajin).

Concur.
Current BLM is basically Two Rotations(Single/Aoe) that are exactly the same movements, except for the fact that there is less (repeated)actions in one, than the other.

Sadly it seems the Mastery High might come crashing down in Dawntrail for BLM, which is what some of us in the forum worry about.
(Since, IF you can stack ice in the new gauge, we may have MP issues to deal with. On Steroids, Worse than Thin Air Stacks.)

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As for PICtomancer, it's basically just give it a Honest and Justly Efforted Chance, it may surprise you.

And Not all Jobs need to be dedicated to the Majority.

BLM for example is a job that isn't hard to get into, specially at the start where it feels slow.

We need our Walk in the parks, as well as a unstable hiking trail.