Pictomancer is absurd

[Kiyumi]

Respectfully, there's half a dozen silly edgy jobs (fighting with a scythe? Guns in a fantasy game?) and now it isn't edgy, instant complaints?

How about a tad of empathy for people who like different styles? Personally I am really happy, Pictomancer is one of the first jobs that really appeals to me. It's cute. I like cute. Relm was always a great character.


Sure, runic knight or geomancer or such would have probably been a more suiting choice. But this job looks totally unique. The other ones all meld into nothingness to me. Why does everything have to be to your personal tastes?

[Malthir]

Picto just stings me because IIRC it was used on ONE character (that I doubt many people used much) in ONE game, and she really didn't have anything that a blue mage couldn't do. It's like sticking the finger to blue mage and saying "sorry, we can't work you into a proper job. Instead, let's bring back the walmart version of you and make IT a proper job"

Dark Knights looking at the reaper class like, you don't say, never would have thought they would just clown a class like that..... They literally stole abilities and visuals from the Drk and put them on the reaper. I don't mean copied either, took them straight off the Drk and just gave them to the Reaper.

[Supersnow845]

People complaining about PIC not being another edgy class

https://i.imgur.com/B8ryveE.gifv

[Tint]

Dark Knights looking at the reaper class like, you don't say, never would have thought they would just clown a class like that..... They literally stole abilities and visuals from the Drk and put them on the reaper. I don't mean copied either, took them straight off the Drk and just gave them to the Reaper.

The circumstances made it especially bad.

DRK was asking for years to get a proper job identity back and to get buffs to their self sustain.

And then EW comes out and every tank got massive buffs - and DRK got Oblation, a weak 10% defense buff, a line AoE he already had, and a buff to Salted Earth of all things after they have nerfed the ability just before in ShB. Didn't we wanted that clunky bubble to be removed?

And then Reaper comes out and basically got everything DRK ever wanted.

But let's not forget that people were asking to get DRK as a dps job like it was back in FF11. Reaper is fine - DRK is the problem.

Same with Picto and Blue Mage.

[Arkdra]

Pictomancer is absurd...ly cool!!!

Though other than levelling it to 90 I probably won't play it. I don't like casters much.

[Merrigan]

Kawaii is a term players use for anything pastel so it doesn't actually mean anything when applied to Pictomancer.

Your message could really benefit from not taking people for idiots.

One area matches these pastel shades: Il Mheg. Unless I've missed something, nobody here has come to complain about Il Mheg's kawai aesthetic... Because this area doesn't fit it. Which implies that the use of ‘kawai’ in relation to the pictomancer goes a little bit beyond the simple use of a colour palette.

‘Kawai’ isn't very well defined, but in the Western mindset it's perceived as a Japanese-style fashion for cuteness. Now, if we look at the trailer for the pictomancer's job :

- Young girl with overly girly manners, but no sexualisation? Check.
- Colourful palette (one, and only one, of the characteristics of kawai)? Check.
- Willingness to exaggerate the character's inocent nature (see the weapon, certainly one of the least threatening in the game)? Check.
- Reference to cute things, similar to the aesthetic of Japanese mascots (the image of a rainbow with stars + mog)? Check.

I'd add that Yoshi-P's refusal to appear in the pictomancer's attiral also goes in this direction, as it shows that class is associated with two things: the girly aspect and the youthful aspect, two things he doesn't associate with.So... Yes, the pictomancer is at least close to quite a few kawai characteristics. In the same way that the reaper is close to a lot of goth characteristics. Just because it's kawai doesn't mean you can't like it, by the way.

[Merrigan]

Respectfully, there's half a dozen silly edgy jobs (fighting with a scythe? Guns in a fantasy game?) and now it isn't edgy, instant complaints?

How about a tad of empathy for people who like different styles? Personally I am really happy, Pictomancer is one of the first jobs that really appeals to me. It's cute. I like cute. Relm was always a great character.


Sure, runic knight or geomancer or such would have probably been a more suiting choice. But this job looks totally unique. The other ones all meld into nothingness to me. Why does everything have to be to your personal tastes?

Disclaimer: this message is in no way a way of saying that you don't have the right to like cute things. I feel obliged to clarify, because it's obviously a caricature fair on this topic.

That said, your message contains a good dose of bad faith. Playable classes include :

PLD, WAR, WHM, SCH, AST, SAG, PUG, NIN, SAM, DNC, BRD, MCH (gun = edgy? Wut?), SMN, RDM. GNB ?

= not edgy. The majority of playable classes have nothing to do with edgy at all. So where does this come from, this tendency to assert that there's nothing else available, or that not liking the PIC aesthetic automatically means you want a big dark guy who sucks the blood out of his victims?

[Neoyoshi]

What is with the weird amount of 'likes' in those initial comments; i can't tell if they are 'sarcastic likes', or 'Oh-kupo-nuts-i-accidentally-clicked-on-that-orange-button' or just genuine likes, haha.

Why do we have that 'like button' again? i forgot. o___o

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

What is with the weird amount of 'likes' in those initial comments; i can't tell if they are 'sarcastic likes', or 'Oh-kupo-nuts-i-accidentally-clicked-on-that-orange-button' or just genuine likes, haha.

Why do we have that 'like button' again? i forgot. o___o

To spite people that say things you don't like by liking everything they are against. :kappa:

[Bonoki]

While I can't vouch for the intentions behind every comment, including those possibly crafted to elicit strong reactions or sow discord, I can speak to my own stance. When I express my lack of enthusiasm for Pictomancer, it's not about demanding immediate alterations from Square Enix. Rather, it's about providing constructive feedback that may inform their future decisions, especially as they expand the job roster beyond DawnTrail.

Although Pictomancer doesn't align with my personal preferences, it doesn't mean I'll abstain from playing it. It's an integral part of the game now and will remain so. My stance isn't aimed at altering the present but at contributing to the evolution of the game in the long run.

What is with the weird amount of 'likes' in those initial comments; i can't tell if they are 'sarcastic likes', or 'Oh-kupo-nuts-i-accidentally-clicked-on-that-orange-button' or just genuine likes, haha.

Why do we have that 'like button' again? i forgot. o___o

This thread probably caught the attention of an influencer on Twitter leading to a surge in engagement from their followers who rallied behind their viewpoint, or caught traction on Reddit, 4chan, and or some Discord server. Such occurrences often result in a noticeable spike in likes and interactions on these forums. Regardless, they are probably genuine likes of some fashion.