Pictomancer is absurd

[Truen]

I don't understand the argument that Picto abilities are out of place. There's literally paintbrushes in this game, paint effects in at least one main story boss I can think of, and moogles are an FF staple that's in XIV itself. So what exactly is out of place about it? The fact it's not an effervescent neon laser fest like most of our current abilities? If you've come to this conclusion did maybe not stop and think to yourself that doing something different was the entire point?

My complaint and opinion is that it looks cartoonish and rather dumb. Some are going to like it prob, but I doubt it'll be widely played because it's a literal eyesore. And for every Moogle fan I'd wager there's 5 or more that would drown their entire species in a river given a chance, lol. I'd rather they would keep the game thematically in-line with a more traditional, darker and serious tone but at this late stage in ff14's development cycle the well of ideas is probably starting to run dry. So, it is what it is. We embrace the absurd, try to ignore it, or go play something else.

[Turtledeluxe]

My complaint and opinion is that it looks cartoonish and rather dumb. Some are going to like it prob, but I doubt it'll be widely played because it's a literal eyesore. And for every Moogle fan I'd wager there's 5 or more that would drown their entire species in a river given a chance, lol. I'd rather they would keep the game thematically in-line with a more traditional, darker and serious tone but at this late stage in ff14's development cycle the well of ideas is probably starting to run dry. So, it is what it is. We embrace the absurd, try to ignore it, or go play something else.

I base my thoughts on data and of the data that is accessible that I last reviewed, jobs are played at roughly the same levels across the board. There's no evidence to support that any Job so far is unlikable enough to be played by significantly less people outside of endgame meta preferences which are, for the purposes of this topic, completely irrelevant. If Picto is an eye sore played by almost no one, then it will officially be the first of its kind.

What is actually happening here, what almost always happens., is that someone is trolling and a minority of players perpetuate the topic and scare monger "x is going to flop" based on their own projected hatred.

[Dorito_Burrito]

My complaint and opinion is that it looks cartoonish and rather dumb. Some are going to like it prob, but I doubt it'll be widely played because it's a literal eyesore. And for every Moogle fan I'd wager there's 5 or more that would drown their entire species in a river given a chance, lol. I'd rather they would keep the game thematically in-line with a more traditional, darker and serious tone but at this late stage in ff14's development cycle the well of ideas is probably starting to run dry. So, it is what it is. We embrace the absurd, try to ignore it, or go play something else.

Hell yes. Inject the whimsy into my veins.

[Burmecia]

Hell yes. Inject the whimsy into my veins.

now now, let the PAINters suffer with dignity

rest of us, prepare your rainbow filters (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧

EDIT this, and way earlier discussions about PIC and how fun, whimsy, and colour = not good just makes me think of this ancient extra credits episode

Hard-Boiled - Why Are There So Many Gritty Video Games? - Extra Credits

its not happening to ffxiv, but... just the attitudes, my dudes.

[Doozer]

My complaint and opinion is that it looks cartoonish and rather dumb. Some are going to like it prob, but I doubt it'll be widely played because it's a literal eyesore. And for every Moogle fan I'd wager there's 5 or more that would drown their entire species in a river given a chance, lol. I'd rather they would keep the game thematically in-line with a more traditional, darker and serious tone but at this late stage in ff14's development cycle the well of ideas is probably starting to run dry. So, it is what it is. We embrace the absurd, try to ignore it, or go play something else.

My soul is a black abyss, etc. etc.

[Supersnow845]

I think the problem is that it’s another class like the healers, dancer and arguably bard that really seems like it will fit the game but it doesn’t fit the WOL per say

They have done a lot to characterise the WOL recently outside of meteor and the characterisation leans strongly towards the tank/melee/BLM favouritism that meteor himself also leans towards

Like for example my WOL is a healer but I’ve also had to held alot of his OC lore around making that fit, the canon WOL lore and personality really doesn’t fit these sorts of jobs

Don’t get me wrong I’m super excited for PIC but I think that’s white a lot of the complaints come from

[Duskane]

[Bonoki]

That would be valid if it was actually advice about problematic gameplay design (like current WAR) but right now people are complaining entirely on aesthetic basis

Not liking a classes aesthetics 100% falls into the “if you don’t like the aesthetics don’t play the class”

Arguing that you want different aesthetics is pointless because you can get different aesthetics by playing a different class

I'm afraid we won't see eye to eye on this. To me, "Don't like it, Don't play it" also applies to job design. It could also be used on the graphic update too. Don't like your dead eyes? Pick a different race. That's aesthetics too. I don't understand how aesthetics is unacceptable as valid criticism.

[Supersnow845]

I'm afraid we won't see eye to eye on this. To me, "Don't like it, Don't play it" also applies to job design. It could also be used on the graphic update too. Don't like your dead eyes? Pick a different race. That's aesthetics too. I don't understand how aesthetics is unacceptable as valid criticism.

Because there is no logical ending to an aesthetics criticism

If I said I wanted DRK’s 1-2-3 to look like sailor moon’s transformation would that be a valid aesthetic criticism of DRK that is worth considering changing DRK for

No of course not I’d just be told to play a different job

Aesthetic criticism just really isn’t a valid reason to change a job because it doesn’t affect gameplay. It’s the same reason why it’s pointless to argue against others taste in glamour, because you don’t have to wear what they are wearing

The only time I’d really argue aesthetic criticism is valid is a situation like modern healers where all 4 options are “UWU I'm h-h-hewe t-to make aww youw wounds nyice and bettew“. However casters are visually diverse so you have options

[WiccaP]

Because there is no logical ending to an aesthetics criticism

If I said I wanted DRK’s 1-2-3 to look like sailor moon’s transformation would that be a valid aesthetic criticism of DRK that is worth considering changing DRK for

Can we have a "magical girl" job? Cause I'd totally be down to get my Sailor Moon fantasy on.