Petition for Spanish Translation of Final Fantasy XIV

[Lokewen]

Freedom of expression also includes people being able to call someone out if they think that their "opinion" adds nothing of value to a discussion, and saying the reasons as of why it's inherently toxic and ignorant, as was the case (someone telling people to "just play in English", willingly ignoring the point of there being people that can't actually understand said language, and why, as was pointed out by the people that you quoted). This is a forum, not "Malanior and friends' chupipandi", to use your own words. Yes, you were the one actually seemingly trying to make other people shut up. So much for "freedom of expression"...

And yeah, they would need to invest money, but they would do it for a return. Re-read what you're quoting, since that's not an opinion. That's a description of how a business works. In the end this is a decision that SE has to make, and they'll make it by taking into account their potential profit margins. Just like they did when they decided to provide Spanish support for their other games for almost 3 decades. Moreover, many other MMOs can do it without it affecting the amount of content that they release, at all, including all the most successful ones (WoW, ESO, GW2, Warframe, BDO, EVE, Lost Ark, Albion...). Or have EVE and ESO changed for the worse due to the addition of Spanish support two years ago, for example? Do you think that they did it out of the kindness of their hearts, or maybe they saw the possibility that by increasing the reach of their games their profits would also increase?

In other words, an investment in localization doesn't mean that the game will suffer due to it, but quite the opposite. At least if the people making the call do their homework. But for that to happen, the community has to remind them that the demand is there. And, considering that we're talking about the Spanish language (which is spoken in Spain, Central and Southern America, as well as several other places, including parts of the US), it is.

You're in your right to not wanting something. But that doesn't mean that you're right in regards to the reasons for not wanting it.

One recommendation is that you stop arguing with Malanior. He is a professional troll and only seeks to argue, and is known on many forums and social networks for his need to get everyone riled up. It will change his argument if he manages to upset people, and you will spend too much time and effort when the best thing is to ignore or block him.

And obviously arguing with this person distances the forum from the initiative and becomes a bad image of the community.

[Malanior]

Freedom of expression also includes people being able to call someone out if they think that their "opinion" adds nothing of value to a discussion, and saying the reasons as of why it's inherently toxic and ignorant, as was the case (someone telling people to "just play in English", willingly ignoring the point of there being people that can't actually understand said language, and why, as was pointed out by the people that you quoted). This is a forum, not "Malanior and friends' chupipandi", to use your own words. Yes, you were the one actually seemingly trying to make other people shut up. So much for "freedom of expression"...

And yeah, they would need to invest money, but they would do it for a return. Re-read what you're quoting, since that's not an opinion. That's a description of how a business works. In the end this is a decision that SE has to make, and they'll make it by taking into account their potential profit margins. Just like they did when they decided to provide Spanish support for their other games for almost 3 decades. Moreover, many other MMOs can do it without it affecting the amount of content that they release, at all, including all the most successful ones (WoW, ESO, GW2, Warframe, BDO, EVE, Lost Ark, Albion...). Or have EVE and ESO changed for the worse due to the addition of Spanish support two years ago, for example? Do you think that they did it out of the kindness of their hearts, or maybe they saw the possibility that by increasing the reach of their games their profits would also increase?

In other words, an investment in localization doesn't mean that the game will suffer due to it, but quite the opposite. At least if the people making the call do their homework. But for that to happen, the community has to remind them that the demand is there. And, considering that we're talking about the Spanish language (which is spoken in Spain, Central and Southern America, as well as several other places, including parts of the US), it is.

You're in your right to not wanting something. But that doesn't mean that you're right in regards to the reasons for not wanting it.

I think you misunderstood I say that anyone can talk in a forum, there are people who find it wrong or right, for example in the previous post you see a reason why it is a closed group

It does not represent Spain or anything else, it is a closed group speaking on behalf of all Spaniards, persecutory attitudes are characteristic of closed groups

[Olinyan]

I know a great deal of people that wont play this 'coz its in english. Now, ofc a translation would take time, we are not asking for one tomorrow. It's worth giving it a shot nonetheless! And before anyone (you know who you are) comes saying that they "learn english", think about people that have difficulties doing so. This game is meant for people to enjoy their time on Eorzea, not struggle trying to understand something and dropping the game because of it. If you dont wanna support this, thats fine, each person is entitled to their opinions, but dont come here to spread your negativity and toxicity coz we really couldnt care less xD

[Fawkes_Rayna]

Thank you so much for this!
I would love to play one of my fav FFXIV in my own language ^^. Hope it happens some day!

[AshtarCatto]

Even when I don't have any issue playing in english, it would be lovely to have a spanish translation so I can play with my mom. She used to play WoW but left over the community's toxicity...

[Gorthaur66]

Yes please, SE give me FFXIV in Spanish

[DariusAlexandros]

I would love the option of text in spanish! Please Square Enix!

[ThorelisAsgardian]

We respect all opinions, it is logical that there are people who think differently, although it does not affect them in any way if they translate it into another language, but I do not think that translating some texts into Spanish is a great investment for the company but even if it were, the benefit of the entry of many Spanish-speaking players would turn that investment into greater benefits and with it more money to implement improvements in the game

[Shibi]

I don't speak Spanish, but my better half does. Spanish is a major language; in Europe, large parts of North and South America, and also in the Pacific. It would need a few more headcount in the translation team, but the money coming in from increased subs might well pay for that. Having En/Es/Fr/De/Jp also means one more to the core set of languages that other European customers (like Italian, or Portuguese, or some around the Fr/Es border in the Pyrenees) might be polyglot in.

And of course that rather large and wonderful country in North America, Canada's deuxième sous-sol so to say, exists too. So I now actually wonder if Soken speaks Spanish, not as a translator of course, but as a important and beloved part of the company.

[ChocoFeru]

I don't speak Spanish, but my better half does. Spanish is a major language; in Europe, large parts of North and South America, and also in the Pacific. It would need a few more headcount in the translation team, but the money coming in from increased subs might well pay for that. Having En/Es/Fr/De/Jp also means one more to the core set of languages that other European customers (like Italian, or Portuguese, or some around the Fr/Es border in the Pyrenees) might be polyglot in.

And of course that rather large and wonderful country in North America, Canada's deuxième sous-sol so to say, exists too. So I now actually wonder if Soken speaks Spanish, not as a translator of course, but as a important and beloved part of the company.

Yeah, we have more potential players than actual players because of the translation.

It would open the door for a lot of new people, and more players = more money to create more content