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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    Okay, let's ignore the fact that he's been hospitalized 2 times for over working himself and ignore the massive improvements he's made to the current game and let's ignore ALL info we have on 2.0 just so you can say "Well it's not THAT hard."

    Also, from your other posts, you need to understand that there is a common conception that Japanese tend to be more respectful to others. It's a culture thing, not a "race" thing. Get that through your head. It's not racist to say Japanese are usually more respectful and any reply you make is always blowing things way out of proportion.

    Oh yes, because you've lived in japan before and know all about it. oh, Wait. No. You sit in your moms basement and watch anime/play J-RPG's all day and thing you have a clue what you're talking about. There are cultural differences though, and one that I'm particularly fond of is that in America, respect is given AFTER one achieves something. Not after they've told you they will, and shown your pictures and don't EVERYTHING except actually DO what they said. Until 2.0 comes out, I'm pleased to see the NA population remains objectively critical. Japanese players do too, but you know. I'll let you hold on to your racist dellusions.

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    i know there are words misused and poor grammer but english is my third language so whatever.
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    True the Japanese are known for their politeness and respectfulness, which a friend of mine experienced while he taught English there. He told me that after awhile you get sick of it and it rubs you the wrong way because its not wholly genuine and more a expected practice.

    But at release I understand that the Japanese went bat shit crazy about the state of the game.

    I wonder if they truly find the simplistic, dumbed down, still rather buggy state the game is currently in so enjoyable that they would support Yoshi en masse like they apparently are in the Japanese forums. And I wonder if maybe they aren't more susceptible to the effects of hype because of SE's brand in their country as well as a cultural naivete and thats why they are applauding the current state of ff14 and the promises of 2.0.

    If 2.0 flops will the Japanese go bat shit crazy again? Will they be even more pissed because they were duped again?

    Thats why Im keeping it real untill I play 2.0

    I hope for the best, but expect the worst. Its 2012 any other way of living is gonna wear you out.

    EDIT: I hadn't read the above post before typing this. And I also apologize if my ignorant pondering offends anyone.
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    Last edited by Tricksy; 07-17-2012 at 12:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcaciaTyrannia View Post
    Oh yes, because you've lived in japan before and know all about it. oh, Wait. No. You sit in your moms basement and watch anime/play J-RPG's all day and thing you have a clue what you're talking about. There are cultural differences though, and one that I'm particularly fond of is that in America, respect is given AFTER one achieves something. Not after they've told you they will, and shown your pictures and don't EVERYTHING except actually DO what they said. Until 2.0 comes out, I'm pleased to see the NA population remains objectively critical. Japanese players do too, but you know. I'll let you hold on to your racist dellusions.

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    i know there are words misused and poor grammer but english is my third language so whatever.
    Excuse you but it sounds like -you're- the racist.

    You can learn a little bit of "not being offensive" from this guy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tricksy View Post
    True the Japanese are known for their politeness and respectfulness, which a friend of mine experienced while he taught English there. He told me that after awhile you get sick of it and it rubs you the wrong way because its not wholly genuine and more a expected practice.

    But at release I understand that the Japanese went bat shit crazy about the state of the game.

    I wonder if they truly find the simplistic, dumbed down, still rather buggy state the game is currently in so enjoyable that they would support Yoshi en masse like they apparently are in the Japanese forums. And I wonder if maybe they aren't more susceptible to the effects of hype because of SE's brand in their country as well as a cultural naivete and thats why they are applauding the current state of ff14 and the promises of 2.0.

    If 2.0 flops will the Japanese go bat shit crazy again? Will they be even more pissed because they were duped again?

    Thats why Im keeping it real untill I play 2.0

    I hope for the best, but expect the worst. Its 2012 any other way of living is gonna wear you out.

    EDIT: I hadn't read the above post before typing this. And I also apologize if my ignorant pondering offends anyone.
    You have a very good point and I respect your opinion Tricksy, but as far as things are concerned he has made the game a lot better and until the game flops we can only cheer him on and hope for success. Although, I am not saying we should not be critical about things and if you look around the forums, people are plenty critical. Especially on the NA boards.
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    Last edited by AmyNeudaiz; 07-17-2012 at 12:51 PM.

  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    Excuse you but it sounds like -you're- the racist.

    You can learn a little bit of "not being offensive" from this guy.

    I do believe this is called 'Ad hominem fallacy.' And no one cares about what you do and don't respect. If you want to worship someone before they actually do anything worth worshiping, that is your choice. Also you can give me 1,000 dollars and I'll come shake your hand. Paid in advance only of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AcaciaTyrannia View Post
    I do believe this is called 'Ad hominem fallacy.'.
    You're the only one really insulting here, AcaciaTyrannia.

    And no one cares about what you do and don't respect.
    Don't speak on others' behalf.

    If you want to worship someone before they actually do anything worth worshiping, that is your choice.
    We aren't worshiping, we are thanking him for what he's done. Worship would imply it's pretty much a religion. (Correct me if I'm wrong, though! I'm terrible with definitions, I'll admit.)
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    The angels dance like feathers float, they're here to see and to be seen,
    The clock strikes two, the music slows and each one slowly dons their wings,
    Once outside they all pair off and hand in hand they leave
    But I'm still waiting, yeah, and I'm still waiting
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    Quote Originally Posted by AcaciaTyrannia View Post
    I do believe this is called 'Ad hominem fallacy.' And no one cares about what you do and don't respect. If you want to worship someone before they actually do anything worth worshiping, that is your choice. Also you can give me 1,000 dollars and I'll come shake your hand. Paid in advance only of course.
    No, it's not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
    You are calling others racist for stating that Japanese are typically more respectful to others because of the culture in Japan and you turn around and say extremely rude and somewhat racist remarks back and I am making note of that.

    From the fact that people reply to my posts agreeing with me and press the like button on each post I make says otherwise to your opinion that no one cares. Also, I don't warship him. I stated this before and I will state it again, I respect his work ethic and dedication even if 2.0 flops I will still have my respect for him.


    Could a mod please give a warning on this thread to deter all this pointless negativity? This was a positive post until a certain someone decided to derail it.

    Until then I'm done arguing with you about MY respect towards Yoshi-P.
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    Last edited by AmyNeudaiz; 07-17-2012 at 01:07 PM.

  7. #37
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    You remind me of the people who hyped this game up for months before it's release, then we the myraid of post came flooding in about all the problems it had, you plugged your ears and insulted everyone who disagreed with you, all the while the game died.


    It would seem you still have not learned your lesson. That's fine though, 2.0 will either make this game worth the money (Finally...) or provide me with infinite laughs as I watch you weeaboo flood to the forums to flame anyone who complains about it's failure.
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    I think I was responsible for "derailing". I was just offering a different point of view. Which Acacia was doing as well, if a little vehemently :P I don't think we derailed it. Its all on the same topic.

    Whether Yoshi deserves beer. Some say yes right now, some say after we see results.

    No reason to warn us or anything. We can't just whiteknight every thread. SE needs to know what all of its player base is thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricksy View Post
    I think I was responsible for "derailing". I was just offering a different point of view. Which Acacia was doing as well, if a little vehemently :P I don't think we derailed it. Its all on the same topic.

    Whether Yoshi deserves beer. Some say yes right now, some say after we see results.

    No reason to warn us or anything. We can't just whiteknight every thread. SE needs to know what all of its player base is thinking.
    I am mostly talking about pointing and calling "racism" and insulting people saying they live in their mothers basement and watch anime and play JRPG's all day and other baseless assumptions about the people posting here.

    You are fully in line voicing your disagreement with how everyone is speaking towards the matter.
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    i think this thread need some more Kraken Club's & insane Afros.
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