Jobstones

[Rithy255]

I want to see people try do to hard content as classes. Savage or Ultimate, without any job stones. If that is even possible.

To be serious, job stones should be made mandatory early on so you can't enter any instance past level 30 without one.

You could still have that by allowing Non-Job stones able to queue while in a pre-made party, Which in fine with I think having a funny challenge mode with base Jobs could be funny

In general this is needed, I've had outright trolls go as Gladiator on level 90 duties before, if someone is in late content practically Griefing the party then it's unfair on the rest of the group, also If you somehow "forget" your job stone then I think someone would rather be reminded to equip it then go through the duty embarrassed that i didn't equip a stone.

I think if we are Realistic doesn't need to be forced at 30, but anything above 50 is a Must and the game needs to do you more to tell you that you can upgrade your job. Honestly by stone vigil is a alright starting point but I'm not too fussed if I see a level 44 Gladiator running around, it's more post ARR that it becomes worse and worse.

[rawker]

Quite honestly, it's not the jobstone... it's the player. I have once had a PGL in Tower of Zoth yet he didn't die and did fine.

[Rithy255]

Quite honestly, it's not the jobstone... it's the player. I have once had a PGL in Tower of Zoth yet he didn't die and did fine.

Sure you wouldn't be happy if that was a Gladitor or conjurer instead, It's a lot less noticable on DPS jobs, it will just slow your run down more then anything.

[rawker]

It's the same thing if it were tanks and healers. The run will also be slower. Tjere's no denying the advantage of having your jobstone equipped but it is not impossible. I'd take a GLA than a PLD who refuses to turn on Iron Will, any day.

[Vallerie]

To be fair I just want classes developed into alternative jobs. I would like to play Archer but not deal with annoying Bard Music mechanics, or play as a Rogue and not Ninja. Would be nice if over time we take these classes in different directions. It's never happenning but I would like it.

That ship has sadly sailed about a decade ago, considering they think of the SMN/SCH split using the same base class as a mistake.

[Sjol]

That ship has sadly sailed about a decade ago, considering they think of the SMN/SCH split using the same base class as a mistake.

I wonder if they'll ever fix that. Somehow I doubt it

[Asari5]

To be fair I just want classes developed into alternative jobs. I would like to play Archer but not deal with annoying Bard Music mechanics, or play as a Rogue and not Ninja. Would be nice if over time we take these classes in different directions. It's never happenning but I would like it.

As for people not equipping stones, I've never had an issue with it, sure they are missing stats and skills but I've never not been able to complete an instance with it. Just let them know they can scoop it up whenever.

i feel that. i want a trident job with water magic... but we have dragoon

[Amenara]

Make it from Titan onwards, at the latest. Add a quest in the Company of Heroes chain where they mention that they could only entrust their secrets to a truly exceptional adventurer, prompting the player to get and equip their job stone before continuing.

I agree with the sentiment, but make it Brayflox instead.

That being said, I'd rather SE just completely scrap job stones and upgrade the class to a job when you do the quest at 30 since there is no purpose for them anymore since cross class abilities were removed forever ago.

[Ravenblade1979]

Easy fix. Get rid of base class and start off the actual job at level 1. So would be paladin at 1 instead of gladiator

[Canadane]

I want to see people try do to hard content as classes. Savage or Ultimate, without any job stones. If that is even possible.

People have done this for multiple different fights.