Jobstones

[Nestama]

I want to see people try do to hard content as classes. Savage or Ultimate, without any job stones. If that is even possible.

To be serious, job stones should be made mandatory early on so you can't enter any instance past level 30 without one.

Probably possible in ARR and HW days, considering the cross-class system was a thing and Classes could gain access to 10 skills with less limitations than Jobs. Definitely not now though, since most Classes tend to stop learning how to function around level 40 (ACN doesn't learn anything after level 30). Honestly have no idea how THM could forget how to cast Thunder III and Blizzard III.

[Rudje]

If people want to funhaver without job stones, that's what parties are for. Putting the lock in for standard queuing by 40-ish should be fine and would prevent things like having to heal a Gladiator or Marauder in Stone Vigil (or being healed by a Conjurer). Treat them like a limited job after hat point basically.

[Sjol]

If people want to funhaver without job stones, that's what parties are for. Putting the lock in for standard queuing by 40-ish should be fine and would prevent things like having to heal a Gladiator or Marauder in Stone Vigil (or being healed by a Conjurer). Treat them like a limited job after hat point basically.

Why make it even possible to unequip the job stone? Just have the job stone show on your character when you're in a job with a stone. If you get BRD and then equip a bow, it'll just show that you have a job stone for it. Stones don't actually have to exist as items. It's kind of dumb that they do.

[Roda]

Why make it even possible to unequip the job stone? Just have the job stone show on your character when you're in a job with a stone. If you get BRD and then equip a bow, it'll just show that you have a job stone for it. Stones don't actually have to exist as items. It's kind of dumb that they do.

(I actually use my class hotbars for extra hotbar storage and swapping so I can make interactive hotbar menu macros. If they deleted my ability to separate my job and class hotbars like they currently do, it would wreck my current ui @@)
(having it automatically apply whenever you swap weapons manually, but still allowing us to manually go back to a class would be fine tho '3')

I agree that we should restrict queuing for classes in content where jobs are available tho.

[Sjol]

(I actually use my class hotbars for extra hotbar storage and swapping so I can make interactive hotbar menu macros. If they deleted my ability to separate my job and class hotbars like they currently do, it would wreck my current ui @@)
(having it automatically apply whenever you swap weapons manually, but still allowing us to manually go back to a class would be fine tho '3')

I agree that we should restrict queuing for classes in content where jobs are available tho.

I would rather see them add dropdown buttons (ones where you could click them, and a dropdown would appear with sub-options. That would solve a lot of hotbar issues. I get frustrated when I see one system stay bad because people have hacked it to solve a problem somewhere else. Just fix the original problem and move forward.

While I applaud the community's ingenuity to work around limitations of the UI, I want a less hacky solution to the various problems we're seeing. I shouldn't have to come up with a complex solution for basic bar management.

[AuroraLenaire]

They would need to take into account the people on preferred worlds with the exp buff, though. I've had several alts run into this issue where they cannot unlock their job for many levels beyond 30 because the quest to unlock your job is tied behind a certain MSQ. With the exp buff you greatly outlevel your MSQ. I don't recall exactly what level I was when I finally was able to access this quest, but it was high enough to be embarrassing running around without a job lol

[Asako]

To be fair I just want classes developed into alternative jobs. I would like to play Archer but not deal with annoying Bard Music mechanics, or play as a Rogue and not Ninja. Would be nice if over time we take these classes in different directions. It's never happenning but I would like it.

As for people not equipping stones, I've never had an issue with it, sure they are missing stats and skills but I've never not been able to complete an instance with it. Just let them know they can scoop it up whenever.

[Vallerie]

To be fair I just want classes developed into alternative jobs. I would like to play Archer but not deal with annoying Bard Music mechanics, or play as a Rogue and not Ninja. Would be nice if over time we take these classes in different directions. It's never happenning but I would like it.

That ship has sadly sailed about a decade ago, considering they think of the SMN/SCH split using the same base class as a mistake.

[Asari5]

To be fair I just want classes developed into alternative jobs. I would like to play Archer but not deal with annoying Bard Music mechanics, or play as a Rogue and not Ninja. Would be nice if over time we take these classes in different directions. It's never happenning but I would like it.

As for people not equipping stones, I've never had an issue with it, sure they are missing stats and skills but I've never not been able to complete an instance with it. Just let them know they can scoop it up whenever.

i feel that. i want a trident job with water magic... but we have dragoon

[Burmecia]

Its not the biggest problem

Guess this is my stance. Never had my day ruined by missing jobstone, mine or anyone else's.