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  1. #1
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    Charlotte Cimeaurant
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    Twelve99 Problem again

    Like 1 or 2 years ago, the lag/connectivity issue is back!!

    FFXIV is unplayable.
    check the tracert

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
    2 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms mygpon.ip [192.168.1.1]
    3 13 ms 5 ms 5 ms bba-2-50-17-2.alshamil.net.ae [2.50.17.2]
    4 5 ms 3 ms 5 ms 10.246.255.30
    5 7 ms 11 ms 11 ms 195.229.4.70
    6 106 ms 105 ms 103 ms 10.229.0.133
    7 105 ms 103 ms 106 ms 10.229.0.133
    8 112 ms 112 ms 114 ms mei-b5-link.ip.twelve99.net [213.248.73.94]
    9 297 ms 291 ms * ffm-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.124.60]
    10 450 ms * 486 ms ffm-b11-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.124.119]
    11 293 ms 290 ms 289 ms squareenix-ic-369631.ip.twelve99-cust.net [80.239.195.85]
    12 438 ms 429 ms 412 ms 80.239.145.241
    13 277 ms 273 ms 283 ms 80.239.145.7

    SE has to help us, because my ISP isn't responsible for that. I am not even on the same continent. Twelve99 is in Europe.

    I played 12000 hours and this can not be the end of the game for me
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    Ecto Highwind
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    Isn't neat when you cant play a game for almost 2 week on a game you payed subscription for
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    It seems your network has some bad routing issue.

    Ping already spikes at hop 6, which is not yet the Twelve99 tier 3 carrier network. (IP 10.229.0.133)

    But this IP is a private network address, what provider are you using? What is your connection type? Are you using a public local site network (student site) or something like this?

    Also 195.229.4.70 is registered to EMIRATES TELECOMMUNICATIONS GROUP COMPANY (ETISALAT GROUP), which is your provider?
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    Last edited by DarkArvan; 04-29-2024 at 08:38 PM.

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    I have the same provider and been going through this for at least a month now, but i've also seen people from Germany having the same problem too. It comes and goes, some days its fine and some days the only way to play is using a VPN. I just did a trace route and this is what im dealing with now.

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms
    2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
    3 4 ms 2 ms 2 ms
    4 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms
    5 98 ms 98 ms 97 ms
    6 101 ms 100 ms 100 ms mei-b5-link.ip.twelve99.net [213.248.73.94]
    7 * * * Request timed out.
    8 * * 642 ms 62.115.137.243
    9 * 509 ms * lax-b23-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.143.244]
    10 918 ms * 707 ms ash-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.137.38]
    11 * * 511 ms prs-bb1-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.112.243]
    12 514 ms * 503 ms ffm-bb1-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.123.12]
    13 * * 506 ms ffm-b11-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.124.117]
    14 501 ms 513 ms * squareenix-ic-369631.ip.twelve99-cust.net [80.239.195.85]
    15 * 516 ms 489 ms 80.239.145.241
    16 510 ms 519 ms 487 ms 80.239.145.81

    Using a VPN is all i can do now. But i feel bad for the people that are on consoles and can't use a VPN, they're pretty much stuck with no hope until it suddenly resolves itself again. A waste of gametime/money thats for sure.
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    Last edited by ExoticMeow; 04-29-2024 at 10:06 PM.

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    I noticed the problem started on April 20th, but according to a Redditor, it could have started since April 18th.

    I live on an island so I usually play on EU server with an average of 200/250ms with no problem.
    But Since April 20th, I noticed the ping jumped to 360/400ms.
    And today it's 600ms+ in game on EU servers.

    1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms [192.168.1.1]
    2 3 ms 3 ms 2 ms
    3 * 4 ms 3 ms
    4 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms
    5 80 ms 74 ms 75 ms
    6 257 ms 257 ms 257 ms 10.55.192.99 [10.55.192.99]
    7 * * * Délai d’attente de la demande dépassé.
    8 274 ms 269 ms 260 ms lax-b23-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.126.250]
    9 318 ms 324 ms 310 ms ash-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.137.38]
    10 * * 459 ms prs-bb1-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.112.243]
    11 * 450 ms 452 ms ffm-bb1-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.123.12]
    12 * * * Délai d’attente de la demande dépassé.
    13 436 ms 433 ms 439 ms squareenix-ic-369631.ip.twelve99-cust.net [80.239.195.85]
    14 456 ms 456 ms 455 ms 80.239.145.241
    15 437 ms * * 80.239.145.6
    16 * 434 ms 437 ms 80.239.145.6

    I noticed all these twelve99 problems always happen around the same period every year, how weird.


    Playing on OCE server is fine though (172ms) but can't access some stuff when playing on a different DC.


    I did try playing on EU server with a VPN and it's playable (270-290ms).
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    Last edited by Poulpi; 04-29-2024 at 11:49 PM.

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    Today somehow it's much better than before whereas before it immediately disconnect me, right now its purple big ping problem where my combo took awhile to register, but it kept me in game, at least thats a plus FOR NOW
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecto478 View Post
    Today somehow it's much better than before whereas before it immediately disconnect me, right now its purple big ping problem where my combo took awhile to register, but it kept me in game, at least thats a plus FOR NOW
    Nevermind, it still 90006 me out
    Not while im OCE tho, certainly not a way so us near OCE have to transfer there right?? Just little issues on SE end
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    Playing on EU datacenter but have same issues with twelve99 for over a year now.
    Every single day (extremely rare when it doesn't happen) during prime time (6:30pm-11pm) ping jumps from normal ~25 ms up to 120-180 ms.

    T-Com ISP

    Traceroute:

    1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
    2 5 ms 4 ms 5 ms 172.27.99.1
    3 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms 172.24.112.129
    4 5 ms 4 ms 5 ms htr11-gut24-3.ip.t-com.hr [195.29.240.173]
    5 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms gte01-htr11.ip.t-com.hr [195.29.3.42]
    6 100 ms 100 ms 102 ms zgb-b2-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.183.214]
    7 123 ms 115 ms 102 ms bpt-b6-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.122.174]
    8 138 ms 135 ms 123 ms win-bb1-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.138.202]
    9 138 ms 140 ms 142 ms ffm-bb1-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.137.202]
    10 148 ms * * ffm-b11-link.ip.twelve99.net [62.115.124.117]
    11 114 ms 117 ms 119 ms squareenix-ic-369631.ip.twelve99-cust.net [80.239.195.85]
    12 145 ms 141 ms 144 ms 80.239.145.241
    13 142 ms 147 ms 144 ms 80.239.145.101

    Sadly, Telia (twelve99) is SE's provider for EU and they won't do anything about it.
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    Greetings Charles_Cimeaurant,

    I'm really sorry to hear that you and your fellow adventurers have been experiencing these connection issues.

    We would like to ask for the following information to get a better idea of the issue:

    - Error messages (If any):
    - Type of connection (wired or wireless):
    - Frequency at which error occurs (If this occurs during specific hours, please provide the date(s), time and timezone):
    - Are there other programs being used when running FFXIV:
    - Re-Confirm what data center and server/world were you trying to connect to:
    - What is the ISP and what region/country are you connecting from:

    We would also like to ask what you have tried so far to alleviate the issue:

    Also, seeing as this appears to be a recurring issue from a specific connection (twelve99), on top of replying back here with the requested information, I'd also suggest submitting the traceroute information through our submission form as directed by our sticky post here: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...t-Loss-and-Lag

    At this time, we are also experiencing DDoS attacks further causing issues with connectivity to the game. The most recent announcement can be found via our official lodestone post here: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...a77a75683c3aeb


    We look forward to hearing back from you as well as for any and all reports made through the packet loss and lag submission form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eenkalzet View Post
    Greetings Charles_Cimeaurant,

    I'm really sorry to hear that you and your fellow adventurers have been experiencing these connection issues.

    We would like to ask for the following information to get a better idea of the issue:

    - Error messages (If any):
    - Type of connection (wired or wireless):
    - Frequency at which error occurs (If this occurs during specific hours, please provide the date(s), time and timezone):
    - Are there other programs being used when running FFXIV:
    - Re-Confirm what data center and server/world were you trying to connect to:
    - What is the ISP and what region/country are you connecting from:

    We would also like to ask what you have tried so far to alleviate the issue:

    Also, seeing as this appears to be a recurring issue from a specific connection (twelve99), on top of replying back here with the requested information, I'd also suggest submitting the traceroute information through our submission form as directed by our sticky post here: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...t-Loss-and-Lag

    At this time, we are also experiencing DDoS attacks further causing issues with connectivity to the game. The most recent announcement can be found via our official lodestone post here: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...a77a75683c3aeb


    We look forward to hearing back from you as well as for any and all reports made through the packet loss and lag submission form.
    - Error messages (If any):
    No error messages as there are no disconnects, just lag (from usual 20-25ms jumps up to 100-200 ms latency), packet loss causing rubber banding, battles freezing for 2-5 sec then everything releasing at once, actions failing, etc

    - Type of connection (wired or wireless):
    Wired VDSL connection

    - Frequency at which error occurs:
    99% of the days for the past year+, always during prime time from around 6pm until around 11pm CET, all good outside this time frame

    - Are there other programs being used when running FFXIV:
    None worth mentioning, why and how would any program cause lag starting on twelve99 hops only and not before, and only during prime time. This is clearly twelve99 congestion.

    - Re-Confirm what data center and server/world were you trying to connect to:
    EU datacenter both Chaos and Light, Home world Ragnarok but same issue on any world. For NA/JP/OC there is no difference in latency during their prime time vs out of prime time (tested), although higher latency due to physical distance.

    - What is the ISP and what region/country are you connecting from:
    ISP: Hrvatski Telekom (T-HT), T-Com, Region: Europe, Croatia

    Regarding the packet loss and lag submission form, I've submitted a great dozen reports ever since this started happening to no avail, it's ongoing for over a year now. It used to be all normal (or at least without daily congestion) before certain maintenance on SE's ISP side, where routing changed from Congent to twelve99.
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