Quote Originally Posted by Ancalagon_Blacktalon View Post
But yeah we've had multiple points where the scions have absolutely screwed up. The one of course that everyone remembers is the Crystal Braves, but also:
- Urianger almost getting us killed by the Warrior of Darkness
- the scions trying and failing to get the ala mhigan resistance to do anything other than be cannon fodder for the first half of StB
- ...most of shadowbringers (yshtola grilling urianger about how absolutely screwed we are behind our backs is very spicy)
Being wrong and failing and being humbled is part of the classic heroes journey and I really liked those parts. I like it when my character fails from time to time. It mirrors my own motivation to succeed after failing.

Centuries of story show us success without failure is boring. If the writing is serving the characters instead of the characters serving the story then you can call it good marketing but you would be hard-pressed to call it good writing.