Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
You say this, it's as if "FATE/Skirmish/Big money NM burning ridiculously fast" wasn't already happening in some occasions. The complaints in there becomes "Boohoo they don't want to wait for me longer than 3 minutes past NM spawning ; I was raising a straggler ; I just zoned in ; I was doing bunny"

At the end of the day, people would choose to either adapt or complain when X objective are FFA w/ them ends up not getting their cake(s) after they bang their head using their preferred method.
I dunno which DC you play on but we had a guy pre pull on chaos and almost the full instance started to shittalk them to a point it was almost witch hunting... I think their names were plastered on the BA discords so they will not be able to join unless they make their own party... a lil bit too much if you ask me, but they were not really helping their case when they said "i pulled cause i dont have time to wait right now"

It may happen that we have ALSO griefers there, but it doesnt change it from griefing to non griefing.

Regardless, I find the original OPs comment a bit over the top. "you shouldnt have to DC travel"... my man, If I want to clear ultimates on my EU account, or any savage raid, I need to DC travel. Since DC travel exists, Chaos is unable to fill PF. Its not that bad... it is a bit annoying that you cannot reach your retainers and cant talk to FC for a bit, but its still better than trying to do something for hours that fails to happen.
Just hop to a low pop/ new server. Majority of the players havent even unlocked blue mage in some of them...