Yo-Kai Event: BLU Major Griefing Problem

[Ardeth]

People still cry in HW chat zones when blu groups nuke every bosses in 1 flute opener.
Making things not Missile-able/Ultravibratable changes nothing, it just makes blus go into full max raid dps burst, if a group of people want to go fast they will find a way to go fast, everyone else needs to keep up or cry I suppose.
As for the "Won't Somebody Please Think of the Children?" all the sprouts we had in our parties thought it was cool the zones were extremely active and hectic and alive. They were also getting into every tag no problem.
I honestly can't wait to witness apocalyptical whining when the expansion comes out and hunts become the center of attention, "Please wait I'm congested! griefers!!!! obstructing my gameplay!!!!!"

You're conflating two different things. If it takes, let's say, 100 players to melt a hunt mob. That's fine because the damn might of the zone focused itself on one mob.

A single blue mage can end a FATE inside of 10 seconds.

That's the obstruction of gameplay. I couldn't care less about a combined effort nuking a mob. I'd be pissed if you couldn't, but one player shouldn't have that much power. Especially when an event is going on that they are specifically griefing. International or not. Which how can it not be International?
You'd have to be a mental gymnastic gold medalist to believe otherwise. They do it because of the power the job affords them. It literally is the Robert Caro quote I used the other day about power not corrupting, but revealing. These people were always selfish children. Playing Blue Mage in this way simply made their inside feelings manifest outside. They're human garbage, and now since I remembered, I can remove them from my game soon its time to take out the trash!

[Canadane]

one player shouldn't have that much power.

Every player has that much power.

[Ardeth]

Every player has that much power.

But only they abuse it. Also, no, I'd rather delete my account than sink to the level of these children. I may be rowdy bastard, but I have my ethics.

[Canadane]

But only they abuse it. Also, no, I'd rather delete my account than sink to the level of these children. I may be rowdy bastard, but I have my ethics.

You're leaving convenience and utility on the table.
I'm sure with more limited jobs coming there's going to be more dumb overpowered things to use.

I don't think you should consider it childish, but auspicious.

[Gemina]

You're leaving convenience and utility on the table.
I'm sure with more limited jobs coming there's going to be more dumb overpowered things to use.

I don't think you should consider it childish, but auspicious.

Not everyone wants to unlock and level BLU. Particularly for the sake of having an advantage in a limited time event over those who don't, in which case the job becomes useless to them after the event is over. In a perfect world, those who level unlock and level BLU do so because they have an interest in its content, and those who wish to partake in the Yo-kai event are able to grind it out as fairly as those who did it before BLU was even a thing. This is the based truth, and you know it.

Many players are doing this event for the first time ever, they have a long road ahead of them if they want to reap all the rewards. Even if these players did decide to unlock and level BLU to the point that they are no longer at a disadvantage, chances are the BLU players will have long left the fields after consuming the FATEs like the locusts they are by the time they do. It's really is just sad that so many players simply just don't give a eff about others.

[Canadane]

Not everyone wants to unlock and level BLU. Particularly for the sake of having an advantage in a limited time event over those who don't, in which case the job becomes useless to them after the event is over.

Just because someone doesn't want to, doesn't mean they can't. The opportunity is equal among us all.

Plus. it's utility doesn't end at yokai fates. On top of the plethora of content involved in BLU raids, it can help in maps and other content as well. It cheeses wall jumping puzzles. It could cheese other overworld based events too.
Many people don't see the full extent of how useful it is as a tool and just see it as a job "that can't use DF" and cross it off like it doesn't exist.
Considering it takes maybe 60-90 minutes to go from level 1 to 90, and only a few minutes longer to get the FATE-destroying skills, the time investment is small and the gains are huge!
Get Blue Mage today! ヽ(・∀・)ﾉ

[ZiraZ]

You're conflating two different things. If it takes, let's say, 100 players to melt a hunt mob. That's fine because the damn might of the zone focused itself on one mob.

A single blue mage can end a FATE inside of 10 seconds.

That's the obstruction of gameplay. I couldn't care less about a combined effort nuking a mob. I'd be pissed if you couldn't, but one player shouldn't have that much power. Especially when an event is going on that they are specifically griefing. International or not. Which how can it not be International?
You'd have to be a mental gymnastic gold medalist to believe otherwise. They do it because of the power the job affords them. It literally is the Robert Caro quote I used the other day about power not corrupting, but revealing. These people were always selfish children. Playing Blue Mage in this way simply made their inside feelings manifest outside. They're human garbage, and now since I remembered, I can remove them from my game soon its time to take out the trash!

You've been confusing what griefing means from the start, of course blues nuking things is intentional and obviously people are doing it for their own personal (and their parties) gain, but there is zero maliciousness or pettiness involved in any of this, it's quite simply people trying to do it as fast as the game allows and this is what speed looks like.
Now you DO have the means to keep up with them, again blues cant teleport to fates and they don't fly faster, all it takes is 1 poke while in a party to get gold, or you could go somewhere else if for some insane reason you want to be without a party, but you would rather post on the forums instead of getting it done

[Mosha]

You've been confusing what griefing means from the start, of course blues nuking things is intentional and obviously people are doing it for their own personal (and their parties) gain, but there is zero maliciousness or pettiness involved in any of this, it's quite simply people trying to do it as fast as the game allows and this is what speed looks like.
Now you DO have the means to keep up with them, again blues cant teleport to fates and they don't fly faster, all it takes is 1 poke while in a party to get gold, or you could go somewhere else if for some insane reason you want to be without a party, but you would rather post on the forums instead of getting it done

Vibechecking the ARR boss fates can be malicious if you do it and people have asked you nicely to stop. At least give other people a chance to get credit IMO. BLU still does plenty of DPS without OHKing fates.